Slow transfer speeds between XP and 2k pro.

[de8212]

Need some input on a problem. I have two pc's networked together. The win2k pro box is a fresh install with all the latest drivers, etc. It's a 900MHz tbird/512MB RAM, 40GB Seagate HD. First of all the machine seems to run a tad bit sluggish. Nothing that I would normally seek assistance for but today I noticed something else. I tried to transfer a 150MB folder from my XP box to this win2k pc. It took almost 3 minutes. Now I had this oc set up before with just a 20 GB hd (hard drive upgrade was why I reinstalled) and I never timed it but I am certain files would transfer much faster. Is there something particular I should check for? BTW the machines are hooked up to a SMC router if that matters.



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[de8212]

Anybody?

 

[pX]

I'll take a stab,
are you using 100 or 10baseT NICs? I mean, 150mb for 3mins is what, 800kbs, if one was a 10BaseT card that'd be just a tad slower than your max speed (1200kbs)...

 

[hagbard]

Do you have QoS Packet Scheduler checked in Local Area Properties? If so, uncheck it. Worked for me anyway.

 

[de8212]

are you using 100 or 10baseT NICs?

I hate to say but I am not sure. One is on an ECS k75sa and the other just cam eiwht the comcat stuff. I have had them networked before using win 2k but it sure seemed to transfer faster than it's doing now.

Do you have QoS Packet Scheduler checked in Local Area Properties? If so, uncheck it. Worked for me anyway

I tried that but I transfered a 133 MB file afterwards and it still took over 2 minutes. Maybe it's just me and that is as fast as I can get. Thanks for the help everyone.




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[hagbard]

I had the same problem, but I can't recall what it was that finally solved it. I know I solved it because I don't have problem now. Now, you don't have the firewall up? Okay, have you tried mapping the networked drives? That will make a difference. Be sure to reboot after mapping. Also, do you have anything other than Client for Microsoft Windows, File and Printer Sharing and TCP/IP listed there?

Good luck.

 

[de8212]

Okay, have you tried mapping the networked drives?

Not yet. I thought about that but since I dodn't have it that way before I just figured it was something else.

, do you have anything other than Client for Microsoft Windows, File and Printer Sharing and TCP/IP listed there?

nope, that's it.



thanks for your help..

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[de8212]

BTW, my nic in my XP box is a realtek 8029(AS)-based ethernet adapter. Looking under it's properties in XP, under the advanced tab I see that its line speed is set to TP Half Duplex. WOuld any of the other settings help? Other settings are TP Full Duplex, AUI 10 base 5 and BNC 10base 2.
Another thing, how can I tell if the problem is my XP box sending OR my win2k box receiveing??? Does that make sense?



thanks again.
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[hagbard]

Don't think you're going to get lightning fast transfers with base10 cards. Anyway, I'd set them all to full duplex, or "auto", unless you're using one to connect to a cable modem or DSL.

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: hagbard
Do you have QoS Packet Scheduler checked in Local Area Properties? If so, uncheck it. Worked for me anyway.

Everyone suggests this, yet none of them ever even know what it's for (nor the fact that disabling it does not speedup your network access)

You said you weren't sure if you were on 100mb to 10mb, if your 100 you might try the tips regarding slow network access from microsoft located here.

Bill

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: hagbard
Do you have QoS Packet Scheduler checked in Local Area Properties? If so, uncheck it. Worked for me anyway.

Everyone suggests this, yet none of them ever even know what it's for (nor the fact that disabling it does not speedup your network access)

Okay, what's it do? And I know for a fact, disabling it made a huge difference in how fast files transfered. Why do you think "everyone suggests this", because for everyone, it works.

 

[bsobel]

Okay, what's it do? And I know for a fact, disabling it made a huge difference in how fast files transfered. Why do you think "everyone suggests this", because for everyone, it works.

The QOS service only reserves bandwidth if you have any QOS applications running on your system. When XP first came out every 'hint' article said to remove it (or set the reserve to 0% from 20%). But, turns out that noone is actually running any QOS aware apps, so the reservation was never happening anyhow. Few, if any, of those systems saw a performance increase. And none saw the 'double your internet speed' alot of the hint sites claimed.

Why don't you renable it and do some file copy test and then disable it and do it again, so you can quantify your 'huge difference'.

Bill

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Okay, what's it do? And I know for a fact, disabling it made a huge difference in how fast files transfered. Why do you think "everyone suggests this", because for everyone, it works.

The QOS service only reserves bandwidth if you have any QOS applications running on your system. When XP first came out every 'hint' article said to remove it (or set the reserve to 0% from 20%). But, turns out that noone is actually running any QOS aware apps, so the reservation was never happening anyhow. Few, if any, of those systems saw a performance increase. And none saw the 'double your internet speed' alot of the hint sites claimed.

Why don't you renable it and do some file copy test and then disable it and do it again, so you can quantify your 'huge difference'.

Bill

I have. And it does increase file transfers between my computers. With QoS enabled, transfers moved at a crawl, now they're as they were with Win98. Whenever I reinstall XP, I forget about QoS but remember anytime I have to move a bunch of files and find the usual slow tranfers. I have no idea what its supposed to do for internet transfers, not a thing I'd suspect, but I've only heard disabling QoS to speed up LANs.

 

[bsobel]

I have. And it does increase file transfers between my computers. With QoS enabled, transfers moved at a crawl, now they're as they were with Win98. Whenever I reinstall XP, I forget about QoS but remember anytime I have to move a bunch of files and find the usual slow tranfers.

More antedotal evidence, why not benchmark it?

I have no idea what its supposed to do for internet transfers, not a thing I'd suspect, but I've only heard disabling QoS to speed up LANs.

'Not a thing I suspect', you really should learn what these things are before you turn them all off.

Sigh,
Bill

 

[SoulAssassin]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Okay, what's it do? And I know for a fact, disabling it made a huge difference in how fast files transfered. Why do you think "everyone suggests this", because for everyone, it works.

The QOS service only reserves bandwidth if you have any QOS applications running on your system. When XP first came out every 'hint' article said to remove it (or set the reserve to 0% from 20%). But, turns out that noone is actually running any QOS aware apps, so the reservation was never happening anyhow. Few, if any, of those systems saw a performance increase. And none saw the 'double your internet speed' alot of the hint sites claimed.

Why don't you renable it and do some file copy test and then disable it and do it again, so you can quantify your 'huge difference'.

Bill

Absolutely 110% agreed. Disabling QoS to increase throughput is dasm near an urban legend.

de8212 - Run out to Best Buy/Fry's/CC or whatever is in your area and pick up a 100mb card and your 'problem' will be solved. You can always enable it icon in your system tray to see what it's running at.

Setting to full duplex may help in certain situations but in this particular case when you're transferring several files/folders in one direction the benefit will be minimal. That being said, if your hardware supports it, it's still worth the 2 seconds to change.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: bsobel

I have. And it does increase file transfers between my computers. With QoS enabled, transfers moved at a crawl, now they're as they were with Win98. Whenever I reinstall XP, I forget about QoS but remember anytime I have to move a bunch of files and find the usual slow tranfers.

More antedotal evidence, why not benchmark it?

I have no idea what its supposed to do for internet transfers, not a thing I'd suspect, but I've only heard disabling QoS to speed up LANs.

'Not a thing I suspect', you really should learn what these things are before you turn them all off.

Sigh,
Bill

Don't need to benchmark what is obvious. The difference is night and day. What "they did" in this case was slow my transfers to a crawl. And of course its antedotal, this is my experience, and turning off QoS worked for me. Period.