Slow Firefox? Mozilla Says Add-Ons Are to Blame

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pyonir

pyonir

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I don't know how people can have 20-30+ add-ons. I have 10 (including the Java Console and .NET framework Assistant) and I think even THAT is too many.

If FF takes 21% more time to start because I have Ad Block Plus...so be it. It's worth it. lol
 
KeypoX

KeypoX

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nice list i have a couple, i think i can get rid of xmarks now FF sync i think has hte same features?
 
dualsmp

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I have a grand total of 5 add-ons and FF4 takes way longer than FF3.6 the first time opening. Generally FF4 probably has more pluses than minuses, but it still seems unfinished. Feels like it's still in beta.
 
n7

n7

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I'm just fine with loading times being a bit slower. Not really an issue with SSDs anyway.

Add-ons are the reason i use Firefox.
 
gevorg

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There is much more to it than just loading/startup time. Memory usage/leaks is one particular nasty area of many add-ons.
 
Chiefcrowe

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odd.. for me it is faster than 3.6 in all ways and i have about 10 addons

dualsmp said:
I have a grand total of 5 add-ons and FF4 takes way longer than FF3.6 the first time opening. Generally FF4 probably has more pluses than minuses, but it still seems unfinished. Feels like it's still in beta.
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lxskllr

lxskllr

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Here's my list. I'm happy with the performance, and it's better than 3.x...

Adblock Plus 1.3.5
AnandTech - vB - Dark Theme (Skace) [DISABLED]
AnandTech - vB - Fixed Theme (Skace) [DISABLED]
Anandtech VB - Dark Theme [DISABLED]
change logo
Clay's Personal Dark Style (for Select Sites) [DISABLED]
Compact Menu 2 4.0 [DISABLED]
Dark Ars Technica Forums - Red-Orange (SKYY)
Dark Doom9 Forum
Default 4.0b13pre
DivX® Web Player
DownloadHelper 4.8.6
Firebug 1.7.0
Firefox 4 Normalize the Addonbar
Flagfox 4.1rc
Forecastfox Weather 2.0.2
Greasemonkey 0.9.1
Nightly Tester Tools 3.1.2
QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.6
ReloadEvery 4.0.2
Roomy Bookmarks Toolbar 1.1.6
Shockwave Flash
Smart Bookmarks Bar 1.4.3
snuson dark black
Status-4-Evar 2011.03.16.22
Stylish 1.1.1
TinEye Reverse Image Search 1.1
TuxMachines - Minimal, Dark / Black Theme
Ubuntu Firefox Modifications 0.9rc2
Ubuntu Human Theme 1260925626 [DISABLED]
vBulletin - Dark Theme [DISABLED]
VLC Multimedia Plugin (compatible Totem 2.30.2)
Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (compatible; Totem)
Woot Gray/Black Theme with Sanitizer - v0.5 [DISABLED]
 
Chiefcrowe

Chiefcrowe

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just had to mention since i noticed, but it appears as if your quicktime may be out of date.


lxskllr said:
Here's my list. I'm happy with the performance, and it's better than 3.x...

Adblock Plus 1.3.5
AnandTech - vB - Dark Theme (Skace) [DISABLED]
AnandTech - vB - Fixed Theme (Skace) [DISABLED]
Anandtech VB - Dark Theme [DISABLED]
change logo
Clay's Personal Dark Style (for Select Sites) [DISABLED]
Compact Menu 2 4.0 [DISABLED]
Dark Ars Technica Forums - Red-Orange (SKYY)
Dark Doom9 Forum
Default 4.0b13pre
DivX® Web Player
DownloadHelper 4.8.6
Firebug 1.7.0
Firefox 4 Normalize the Addonbar
Flagfox 4.1rc
Forecastfox Weather 2.0.2
Greasemonkey 0.9.1
Nightly Tester Tools 3.1.2
QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.6
ReloadEvery 4.0.2
Roomy Bookmarks Toolbar 1.1.6
Shockwave Flash
Smart Bookmarks Bar 1.4.3
snuson dark black
Status-4-Evar 2011.03.16.22
Stylish 1.1.1
TinEye Reverse Image Search 1.1
TuxMachines - Minimal, Dark / Black Theme
Ubuntu Firefox Modifications 0.9rc2
Ubuntu Human Theme 1260925626 [DISABLED]
vBulletin - Dark Theme [DISABLED]
VLC Multimedia Plugin (compatible Totem 2.30.2)
Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (compatible; Totem)
Woot Gray/Black Theme with Sanitizer - v0.5 [DISABLED]
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Herr Kutz

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I just checked and I have 8 add-ons.

Adblock Plus 1.3.5
Firefox UI Fixer 1.4.2
Flagfox 4.1.1
Java Console 6.0.22
Java Console 6.0.23
Java Console 6.0.24
Status-4-Evar 2011.03.21.22
Stratiform 1.0


Does anyone else have 3 java consoles? I'm not sure what the difference is and there is only an option to disable, not remove, them.
 
Unheard

Unheard

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No matter what their excuse is, it's too little, too late. I've made the Chrome switch, and haven't looked back.
 
Nothinman

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Unheard

Unheard

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Nothinman said:
This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Just like the majority of Windows BSODs are caused by 3rd party drivers.



It's not an excuse and I'm sure there are addons for Chrome that have an adverse affect on performance as well.
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Firefox on my PC is free of any addons and is still slow as Christmas to load and runs clunky as anything. Chrome loads almost instantly and is a smooth browsing experience.


It's an excuse.
 
Nothinman

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Unheard said:
Firefox on my PC is free of any addons and is still slow as Christmas to load and runs clunky as anything. Chrome loads almost instantly and is a smooth browsing experience.


It's an excuse.
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FF4 runs fine for me. Chrome feels a little bit faster, but FF is nowhere near as bad as you claim.
 
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imagoon

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Nothinman said:
FF4 runs fine for me. Chrome feels a little bit faster, but FF is nowhere near as bad as you claim.
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Same here, I never click Firefox and sit there thinking "wow this is so slow." Even when I reopen it with like 20 tabs open. The biggest delay I see is when addon updates are out and I click the "download" button. Fire fox is normally up and running in sub 15 seconds with a butt load of tabs open and sub 3 seconds with a fresh open.
 
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dguy6789

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Nothinman said:
FF4 runs fine for me. Chrome feels a little bit faster, but FF is nowhere near as bad as you claim.
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When neither browser is in RAM, vanilla Firefox takes no less than five times as long to open as Chrome, and I'm being conservative.
 
lxskllr

lxskllr

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And Lynx is still faster than all of them. That's what happens when you add features, it slows things down. I'll be sticking with my fully featured Firefox for the foreseeable future.
 
Nothinman

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dguy6789 said:
When neither browser is in RAM, vanilla Firefox takes no less than five times as long to open as Chrome, and I'm being conservative.
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Possibly, but if it's a difference of .5s and 2s that's not anything to worry about IMO. And I rarely shut either of them down so I only see the startup time of either once a month or so.
 
Barfo

Barfo

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dguy6789 said:
When neither browser is in RAM, vanilla Firefox takes no less than five times as long to open as Chrome, and I'm being conservative.
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I open Firefox about once a week when I reboot my machine, whereas I make use of extensions several hours per day so I can live with the slower-than-chrome-but still-not-too-slow startup time :)
 
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