Slide to unlock on mobile devices

[HAL9000]

No, they really shouldn't be. If there is prior art (which there is) then you can't patent something. The patent office isn't aware of everything that exists so they often grant patents that really shouldn't be given.

They patented something different from the original mechanical lock.

Also, these big companies do very funny things with patents. Some of them operate under this sort of truce that's ensured by mutually assured destruction. They don't sue their competitors for violating certain patents because their competitors could sue them back for violating others. It was pretty much the reason why Google bought Motorola mobility a while ago. They didn't want them for their phones, they wanted them for their patent portfolio to stave off infringement suits.

Article on it

Yeah I know, I remember.

 

[Bignate603]

True, but they didn't patent the concept of applying it to a touch GUI... Making a simple intuitive interface for unlocking a device.

Except that it was already being used in a touch GUI before Apple patented it.

http://www.androidcentral.com/apple-granted-patent-slide-unlock-even-though-it-existed-2-years-they-invented-it

 

[ThatsABigOne]

True, but they didn't patent the concept of applying it to a touch GUI... Making a simple intuitive interface for unlocking a device.

That was my point. They are not the first ones to use the GUI feature of slide to unlock.

 

[HAL9000]

Except that it was already being used in a touch GUI before Apple patented it.

http://www.androidcentral.com/apple...en-though-it-existed-2-years-they-invented-it

Crazy they should have patented it

 

[HAL9000]

That was my point. They are not the first ones to use the GUI feature of slide to unlock.

I did not realise that I'll have to evaluate my position

 

[SSSnail]

I did not realise that I'll have to evaluate my position

As with many of your other propositions in which you have no idea what you were talking about.

The bottom line is, Apple is patent trolling, patenting things that have already exist and or used. Much like Monster trademark the word monster. That's why the lot of us hate the company.

 

[HAL9000]

As with many of your other propositions in which you have no idea what you were talking about.

The bottom line is, Apple is patent trolling, patenting things that have already exist and or used. Much like Monster trademark the word monster. That's why the lot of us hate the company.

A couple of things:

1) People are allowed to patent things that have already existed
2) People are allowed to trademark words that already exist, otherwise anyone could use the name "Apple"

 

[SSSnail]

A couple of things:

1) People are allowed to patent things that have already existed
2) People are allowed to trademark words that already exist, otherwise anyone could use the name "Apple"

So basically, you're saying that it's OK to steal an idea, or product, and patent it and counter sue? Much like "Your face hurt my hands when I punched it, I'm gonna sue you" sort of way?

You can't trademark words that already exists in their form, you can patent your logo, whatever. I can use apple any fucking ways I want, and there isn't a damn thing that Apple, Inc. can do anything about it. But, that doesn't stop Monster from suing people though. It's absurd, it's vomit inducing, but it's allowed.

It's no wonder your personal moral compass is aligned with this sort of things, trolls of different color.

 

[HAL9000]

So basically, you're saying that it's OK to steal an idea, or product, and patent it and counter sue? Much like "Your face hurt my hands when I punched it, I'm gonna sue you" sort of way?

I didn't say it's OK, I said it's legal.

You can't trademark words that already exists in their form, you can patent your logo, whatever. I can use apple any fucking ways I want, and there isn't a damn thing that Apple, Inc. can do anything about it. But, that doesn't stop Monster from suing people though. It's absurd, it's vomit inducing, but it's allowed.

You can't use the Apple logo.

It's no wonder your personal moral compass is aligned with this sort of things, trolls of different color.

This doesn't mean anything.

 

[Slew Foot]

Im going to patent taking a shit in a toilet full of water

 

[SSSnail]

I didn't say it's OK, I said it's legal.



You can't use the Apple logo.



This doesn't mean anything.

That's not what you said, you said "words". And I never said it's OK for people to use trademark logos of other companies.

Anyways, I'm done showing you how trollish you are. I'm sure others have done the same, plenty. I'm done with you in this thread.

 

[mcmilljb]

A couple of things:

1) People are allowed to patent things that have already existed
2) People are allowed to trademark words that already exist, otherwise anyone could use the name "Apple"

1) Yes, by the people who invented it.
2) Ask Apple Inc about Apple Corp. lol

 

[zanejohnson]

hehe there's apps to copy the iPhone slider for Droid...I use the iPhone keyboard sounds on my Droid tablet...its got a good sound scheme

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Amazing how they patented an idea thats been around for 100+ years, isnt it?

lol spot on. Brilliant :awe:

 

[Bignate603]

Crazy they should have patented it

Maybe they didn't patent it because they thought it was obvious. Patents are supposed to be for things that are non-obvious.

 

[HAL9000]

Maybe they didn't patent it because they thought it was obvious.

Then they are idiots.

Patents are supposed to be for things that are non-obvious.

"obvious" is subjective. Patents are for ideas, any ideas.

 

[Linflas]

Then they are idiots.



"obvious" is subjective. Patents are for ideas, any ideas.

The only idiot I see is the one claiming that patents are for any idea and ignoring the actual law regarding patents which all require the "non-obvious" test as part of the requirements for obtaining a patent.

 

[HAL9000]

The only idiot I see is the one claiming that patents are for any idea and ignoring the actual law regarding patents which all require the "non-obvious" test as part of the requirements for obtaining a patent.

OK well if that's the case, making a small box that you slide from left to right using your finger on a capacitive touch screen device in order to unlock the device is not obvious, it's intuitive, if it's obvious then all intuitive GUI / HCI concepts are obvious.

 

[Anonemous]

Hey at least Apple isn't patenting Hyperlinks or the Internet or the WWW... /HTC

 

[Linflas]

OK well if that's the case, making a small box that you slide from left to right using your finger on a capacitive touch screen device in order to unlock the device is not obvious, it's intuitive, if it's obvious then all intuitive GUI / HCI concepts are obvious.

Non Obvious:
Xerox PARC designs the first GUI interface using a mouse.

Obvious:
All the various implementations of the Xerox idea by Apple, Microsoft, IBM etc.

 

[Bignate603]

Then they are idiots.



"obvious" is subjective. Patents are for ideas, any ideas.

I've gone through the patent process 5 times. You don't bother to patent obvious things because it's a waste of time and money. It costs money to write a patent, it costs money to file a patent, and it costs a HUGE amount of money to try and defend a patent. If it's unlikely that you can win a court case on the patent it's not worth doing the patent.

 

[HAL9000]

Non Obvious:
Xerox PARC designs the first GUI interface using a mouse.

Obvious:
All the various implementations of the Xerox idea by Apple, Microsoft, IBM etc.

I disagree, everything that the mouse does is not obvious implementations of it.

 

[J-Money]

Everyone should actually be thanking Apple.

Eventually all these bogus patents will force them to change the way patents are issued.

They are exposing a majorly flawed system.

 

[Fingolfin269]

One of the main issues people have with Apple's patent trolling is that it supposedly stifles innovation. What innovation is this one stifling?

Speaking of trolling, we're all posting in a troll thread.

 

[rh71]

I turned off the unlock features.. if you push the side button, the main screen comes on. It's in my coat's breast pocket so it's not like I'm going to accidentally hit the side button then chest-dial anyone from the home screen.

Of course having the un-sleep button on the face is easier to hit accidentally. Got that, Apple?