SLI now allows for mixed vendors

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This is getting really bad. Crossfire is going to be eternally called Missfire if it loses all of its advantages like this. Not that anyone has Crossfire, just theoretically I guess.
Losing your "theoretical" advantages? :confused:

Great news though for those of us with Nvidia hardware! :beer:
 

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So this should allow a pairing of my already present 6800 Ultra along with the 7800 GTX I plan on obtaining?

Sweet!
 

biostud

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until the r520 crossfire is launched, crossfire is a no go. The r520 will not be limited in resolution and refresh rate as the current one.
 

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Originally posted by: cirrhosis
So this should allow a pairing of my already present 6800 Ultra along with the 7800 GTX I plan on obtaining?

Sweet!

no, same card type different brands.
 

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Originally posted by: cirrhosis
So this should allow a pairing of my already present 6800 Ultra along with the 7800 GTX I plan on obtaining?

Sweet!

The article says though that this might be coming in future driver versions.
I'd expect it.
 

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While it is not a repost of this exact article the topic was discussed last week...I agree it is big versus ATi's lackluster crossfirte solution with no availability yet in terms of mobos, and the wacky master/slave cards......


Although I dont know what those crack ace reporters at INquirer are linking since that OCworkbench review says it is using 77.77 forceware drivers and I see NOOOOO mention of SLI setup mismatching cards....I dont know....Some ppl just love the Inquirer...I dont see it....
 

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end yourself southpawuni

not because you perfer NV, to each his own, but for your flamebait title that is only here to draw fanbois in for yet another pissing match.
 

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: cirrhosis
So this should allow a pairing of my already present 6800 Ultra along with the 7800 GTX I plan on obtaining?

Sweet!

The article says though that this might be coming in future driver versions.
I'd expect it.



Why does the inquirer link me to a GamePC review???? I see nothing related to OCworkbench so I can see what they used...

I manually typed it in and it took me to ocworkbench.....The properties of the link through my Firefox veriosn 1.07 says the l;link address is www.gamePC.com
 

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I would say eBay for teh win! As this will help in buying a second card of the open market.
 

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
end yourself southpawuni

not because you perfer NV, to each his own, but for your flamebait title that is only here to draw fanbois in for yet another pissing match.

Only guys like you apparantly. Everyone else seems to be doing fine in the thread. :confused: Thats all I'm going to comment on you and your issue.
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: cirrhosis
So this should allow a pairing of my already present 6800 Ultra along with the 7800 GTX I plan on obtaining?

Sweet!

The article says though that this might be coming in future driver versions.
I'd expect it.



Why does the inquirer link me to a GamePC review???? I see nothing related to OCworkbench so I can see what they used...

I manually typed it in and it took me to ocworkbench.....The properties of the link through my Firefox veriosn 1.07 says the l;link address is www.gamePC.com

They somehow messed up their link. I fixed it tho, and the correct one is in the OP.

They actually have the correct link they meant to put (the one in my OP) written out in text, and the gamepc.com link hyperlinked.

Sloppy!
 

Duvie

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<<That is, you can now use different branded cards (of the same core) and run them in tandem.>>

<<SLI Mixed vendor support>>

So does this mean I could mix a 7800GT with a 7800GTX?? Or is it saying I could mix a Leadtek 7800GTX with a cheaper and slower evga 7800GTX??? If the later is the case that is nothing exciting....

I want to see a 7800GT work with my 6800NU or perhaps with a cheaper 7600GT's when they come out....You know be that added boost without 2x the cost....maybe one card has more feature and gives you those added monitor outputs...
 

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: cirrhosis
So this should allow a pairing of my already present 6800 Ultra along with the 7800 GTX I plan on obtaining?

Sweet!

The article says though that this might be coming in future driver versions.
I'd expect it.



Why does the inquirer link me to a GamePC review???? I see nothing related to OCworkbench so I can see what they used...

I manually typed it in and it took me to ocworkbench.....The properties of the link through my Firefox veriosn 1.07 says the l;link address is www.gamePC.com

They somehow messed up their link. I fixed it tho, and the correct one is in the OP.

They actually have the correct link they meant to put (the one in my OP) written out in text, and the gamepc.com link hyperlinked.

Sloppy!


Yep seem like amateurs much like most of their rumor mill postings.....Apoppin likes them though!!!
 

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Originally posted by: Duvie
<<That is, you can now use different branded cards (of the same core) and run them in tandem.>>

<<SLI Mixed vendor support>>

So does this mean I could mix a 7800GT with a 7800GTX?? Or is it saying I could mix a Leadtek 7800GTX with a cheaper and slower evga 7800GTX??? If the later is the case that is nothing exciting....

I want to see a 7800GT work with my 6800NU or perhaps with a cheaper 7600GT's when they come out....You know be that added boost without 2x the cost....maybe one card has more feature and gives you those added monitor outputs...

Well, the INQ reads like you can mix cores. But the article they linked to doesnt state that at all.

On the last page of the 81.84 driver review they say that mixed cores will probably be possible in a future release. If you can mix bios/different clockspeeds already, I dont see why not.
It'd be interesting though if someone tried two different cores and see what happens. Might work with the 81.84s?

Will the next driver allow a 6800GT and 6600GT to SLI together ? Lets wait and see if that is possible in the next few driver upgrades.
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nVidia apparently wants our multi card business. The technology of SLI just keeps getting better, and to be honest, I've had it since the early days and I thought it was pretty flawless then.


I don't see ATI competing with their strange master and slave + dongle and ATI motherboard requirements, not to mention the rumored mondo power requirements of X1800 Xfire.

I doubt ATI cares though as they've stated multi gpu capability isn't an important enough percent of their sales to merit them integrating the circuitry into their gpus, that they'll keep bolting it on.
 

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: Duvie
<<That is, you can now use different branded cards (of the same core) and run them in tandem.>>

<<SLI Mixed vendor support>>

So does this mean I could mix a 7800GT with a 7800GTX?? Or is it saying I could mix a Leadtek 7800GTX with a cheaper and slower evga 7800GTX??? If the later is the case that is nothing exciting....

I want to see a 7800GT work with my 6800NU or perhaps with a cheaper 7600GT's when they come out....You know be that added boost without 2x the cost....maybe one card has more feature and gives you those added monitor outputs...

Well, the INQ reads like you can mix cores. But the article they linked to doesnt state that at all.

On the last page of the 81.84 driver review they say that mixed cores will probably be possible in a future release. If you can mix bios/different clockspeeds already, I dont see why not.
It'd be interesting though if someone tried two different cores and see what happens. Might work with the 81.84s?


I hope you are right. I think that sounds more revoltionary and a better selling point.
 

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Let me tell you...give me a woprld where I can buy a 7800NU (likely the G71s) softquadroed for the CAD and opengl performance and an AIW x1800 for the multimedia capabilities/ better direct3d stuff with eye candy and I would happy as sh^t...

Now that would impress me...best of both worlds...
 

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Let me tell you...give me a woprld where I can buy a 7800NU (likely the G71s) softquadroed for the CAD and opengl performance and an AIW x1800 for the multimedia capabilities/ better direct3d stuff with eye candy and I would happy as sh^t...

Now that would impress me...best of both worlds...

I dont want to pull this too far OT, but I guess it is my thread afterall..

but that was my disappointment with the G70. Even though it wasnt apparant until now (X1K launch).

Nvidia hasnt fixed their AA/AF performance yet!
With Purevideo NV took a big step in the multimedia area.. and with lessened performance penalty in AA/AF they'd have the whole package.
Not that its really that horrible of a situation for them, they still do high res with AA/AF just fine.. just a unacceptable drop in performance compared to ATI.

Thats what competition does, sets the bar.
I've said this before about NV setting the bar for ATI, but I was flamed into misery for saying it. :confused:

Nvidia needs to get that right in the GF8.
ATI needs to get OGL right as well, as well as get their drivers more streamlined overall. I find the X1K OGL performance unacceptable.

All NV has to do is do is match ATIs AA/AF efficiency and ATI wouldnt have many technological merits left for a consumer to consider.

Regardless, I wont be buying another GPU until everyone has their unified shader cards done and out.
 

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Originally posted by: Rollo
nVidia apparently wants our multi card business. The technology of SLI just keeps getting better, and to be honest, I've had it since the early days and I thought it was pretty flawless then.


I don't see ATI competing with their strange master and slave + dongle and ATI motherboard requirements, not to mention the rumored mondo power requirements of X1800 Xfire.

I doubt ATI cares though as they've stated multi gpu capability isn't an important enough percent of their sales to merit them integrating the circuitry into their gpus, that they'll keep bolting it on.

Despite all the threads and posts complaining about its flaws?
Sure, nVidia have fixed and improved a lot of stuff, but it definately wasn't flawless at the start from what I remember of various comments.
 

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Despite all the threads and posts complaining about its flaws?
Sure, nVidia have fixed and improved a lot of stuff, but it definately wasn't flawless at the start from what I remember of various comments.

I think if you look, you'll find most of those threads were started by people who don't have SLI?

For a gamer with CRTs/non WS LCD and Windows XP, SLI was pretty flawless out the door.
 

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Originally posted by: Rollo
nVidia apparently wants our multi card business. The technology of SLI just keeps getting better, and to be honest, I've had it since the early days and I thought it was pretty flawless then.

I don't see ATI competing with their strange master and slave + dongle and ATI motherboard requirements, not to mention the rumored mondo power requirements of X1800 Xfire.

I doubt ATI cares though as they've stated multi gpu capability isn't an important enough percent of their sales to merit them integrating the circuitry into their gpus, that they'll keep bolting it on.
The circuitry is integrated into the GPUs, but they are not using it necessarily in the same way as nVidia.
The X1300 can supposedly be put in Crossfire and does not require master/slave because data can be transferred across the PCIe bus, but with higher end cards (X1600 and up) there isn't enough bandwidth in 2x 8x slots to allow it to be done and provide a sensible speed boost, so they decided to use a dongle (rather than a bridge).
See here

On an x1800 [...] we were to enable a software crossfire mode over PCI Express, we could still get games to work but they?d be 20-30% faster
Other wise you have additional costs

Something is required to connect the cards, ATi decided to use an extra chip system, while nVidia went for a bridge and decided both cards could have the necessary components.
But don't let that get in the way of your ranting.
And I seem to remember "mondo" power requirements at the start of SLI release that quickly went down, but again, complain away in the way you tend to.



*And thank you nVidia for allowing mixed vendors, since the Leadtek cards don't seem to have dropped in price much, but others are now ~15% or more cheaper than Leadtek.
 

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Despite all the threads and posts complaining about its flaws?
Sure, nVidia have fixed and improved a lot of stuff, but it definately wasn't flawless at the start from what I remember of various comments.

I think if you look, you'll find most of those threads were started by people who don't have SLI?

For a gamer with CRTs/non WS LCD and Windows XP, SLI was pretty flawless out the door.

He's right (Rollo that is).

I sometimes wondered if the vendor restriction was to keep sales to one specific company, so if you bought a BFG and then later when you wanted a card and some other brand was cheaper than BFG.. you still bought a BFG.

But the bios restriction was probably nvidia playing it safe.. why enable all that stuff that early when it isnt necessary.. and why not just have ppl buy the same brand.. it would keep certain vendors happy in ways.