SLI bug

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Rollo
Bouzouki doesn't have SLI, and if you read his many negative posts about it, its pretty clear he never will.
He posted this to flame SLI, not because he has it and is inconvenienced.

What he has done here is no different than me posting "ATI Linux support sucks" when I have neither Linux nor an ATI card.

I'm treating this thread exactly the way you would treat it if I posted it, except anti ATI.

I didn't realize that somebody pointing out a product bug is then required to be subjected to personal attacks by forum members.

But by all means please continue with your, what did the Mods call it? Oh yes...

seemingly endless, pointless, useless flaming

The more you keep flaming people the sooner we can be rid of you for good. Keep up the good work.

You be sure to tattle to them like a good little school boy Creig.

FYI- I live in a metro area with dozens of ISPs and have enough money to switch them on a whim. Do you honestly think someone can keep me off an open website?

Why don't you look at who's doing the real flaming in this thread and tattle on them, ever vigilant Creig?

Thanks for being an ass.

Yet another childish post by rollo

The fanboys on this forum piss me off.

Didnt you get banned before? I hope it happans again

Go away troll

I call "Shenanigans" on your pointless attempts to mod. I guess since you long ago gave up on trying new gaming hardware you fill in the void by arguing with those who do.

Maybe you should get a clue that most people here find your constant flaming to be an annoyance and simply stop.


As far as:

FYI- I live in a metro area with dozens of ISPs and have enough money to switch them on a whim. Do you honestly think someone can keep me off an open website?

My money is on the Mods.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: BouZouki

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Lets get real here. This thread is flamebait. Nothing more. BouZouki was bored. Needed some excitement. There are many things Windows XP users have that Windows 2000 users do not. SLI and HT are just two small examples. You will have to visit MS yourself to do your own reading.

But...but...Keys! Windows 2000 is a "modern" OS! Good for another "3 years"!

Shouldn't everything work the same on on Windows 2000 as it does on XP? Then the same as Longhorn?

Why the heck should a guy have to buy a new OS every decade when the old one is perfectly fine?!?!?

Lets face it:
SLI should work perfectly with every game and every OS.
Expect future breaking news from Bouzouki like:

"SLI not compatible with "Return to Krondor" game from 1985"

and

"OS2 Warp users shunned by nVidia! No SLI for OS2!"

Whatever you say rollo, dont you still realize your flamming and not me. If I intended this to be flamebait I wouldnt change the title. God, cant somone post a bug or defect or whatever without all this garbage. I guess not. Seems little babys like rollo cant handle it.

A mod can lock this thread now.

Gee Bouzouki, I see your point:
When you called me an "ass", a "troll", and a "little baby", I should have just replied "Thanks friend!" :roll:

Only in your warped world Bouzouki. Here's the deal: if you don't post inaccurate info about hardware, I won't reply to you at all. If you don't post flames (which many others have judged this thread to be) I won't reply to you at all. If you don't flame me, I won't reply to you at all.

I really have no interest in you, only in responding to inaccurate flames.

Don't see my point yet?

I could hit Rage3d and come up with a ton of incompatible issues with ATI hardware, come back here and make a thread for each one. (like you did with this thread)

I don't do that, because I'm not a troll looking to stir up controversy.

Moral: If you don't stir the pot, we all get along fine.

Make sense?

 

[fstime]

Ok rollo. It's your problem you take things the wrong way, not mine. If you dont care about SLI windows 2000 support, what the hell are you doing here? Oh I forogot you cant handle things, which is the reason I called you a baby, becauseyou are. Your the troll.

I'm not going to bother posting anymore in this thread. Have fun rollo.

 

[nRollo]

Maybe you should get a clue that most people here find your constant flaming to be an annoyance and simply stop.

Most people? Looks to me like in this thread anyway more people agree with me than you, tattletale.

As far as:


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My money is on the Mods.

I'm not declaring omnipotence here Creig. I'm simply stating that a person is only referenced here by IP and email. I have multiple IPs and emails. They could zap me as Rollo, but I'd be back the next day as Joe Blow. It's a public forum.

People like you make me retch. You don't agree with what I have to say, so it's off to the mods like a five year old on the playground.

Be a man, for Christ sake and either live with your failure in the debate or figure out how to win it.

How do you look your son in the eye after tattling to the mods because you don't like what another man has to say?

Better men then us died for the right of free speech in this country, and you spit on their sacrifice with your attempts to silence those you oppose.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Maybe you should get a clue that most people here find your constant flaming to be an annoyance and simply stop.

Most people? Looks to me like in this thread anyway more people agree with me than you, tattletale.

As far as:


quote:

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FYI- I live in a metro area with dozens of ISPs and have enough money to switch them on a whim. Do you honestly think someone can keep me off an open website?
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My money is on the Mods.

I'm not declaring omnipotence here Creig. I'm simply stating that a person is only referenced here by IP and email. I have multiple IPs and emails. They could zap me as Rollo, but I'd be back the next day as Joe Blow. It's a public forum.

People like you make me retch. You don't agree with what I have to say, so it's off to the mods like a five year old on the playground.

Be a man, for Christ sake and either live with your failure in the debate or figure out how to win it.

How do you look your son in the eye after tattling to the mods because you don't like what another man has to say?

Better men then us died for the right of free speech in this country, and you spit on their sacrifice with your attempts to silence those you oppose.

Good Lord, did you forget to take your meds this morning?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Lets get real here. This thread is flamebait. Nothing more. BouZouki was bored. Needed some excitement. There are many things Windows XP users have that Windows 2000 users do not. SLI and HT are just two small examples. You will have to visit MS yourself to do your own reading.

HT CPUs are supported just fine on W2K SP4. As for SLI, that's a driver-supported thing, and I don't see why that would be any different between W2K and XP, unless MS paid off NV to only support SLI on XP or something. There's certainly nothing so strongly technically different between the OSes to prevent it.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Rollo
I'm not declaring omnipotence here Creig. I'm simply stating that a person is only referenced here by IP and email. I have multiple IPs and emails. They could zap me as Rollo, but I'd be back the next day as Joe Blow. It's a public forum.

I think that the admins would disagree with that, and likewise, I think that people would recognize your posts regardless.

Originally posted by: Rollo
How do you look your son in the eye after tattling to the mods because you don't like what another man has to say?

Better men then us died for the right of free speech in this country, and you spit on their sacrifice with your attempts to silence those you oppose.

I think that the mods would likely give you the standard speech about how this is actually a private forum, there is no "free speech" here, and mods/admins are omnipotent.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Despite popular belief on these forums, Windows 2000 still has a huge installed userbase

This may be so, however, the Valve survey shows that almost 90% of 1,430,707 steam users surveyed (gamers) are running Windows XP.
http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html

Stop confusing us with these crazy facts Nitromullet!
Don't you know that many people building computers on motherboards that have been around a whole four months are retrofitting them with five year old operating systems, because everyone knows Windows 2000 has always had the best game and gaming hardware support?!??!?!

Actually, it does. DirectInput talks to the HAL, instead of being software-emulated, the USB mouse driver isn't forcibly throttled to a slow polling update period, there are no wierd refresh-rate issues that need a seperate 3rd-party "refresh fix" tool to set, and due to the changes with the working-set trimmer, and VM in general in XP, W2K still seems superior and more responsive to me. Not to mention the Punkbuster "lag" issue, which apparently occurs with multiple instances of hardware under XP, but not W2K. Coincedence? I think not.

Originally posted by: Rollo
<remembers days when a few people actually used Win2000 and there would be benchmarks showing it was slower for gaming, the incompatibilities, and how people would set up dual boot with 98 to game on>

Of course, any NT-based OS is going to be a fraction slower than a Win9x OS, simply because NT-based OSes require proper memory-protection, and Win9x OSes allow direct hardware-level memory access in many cases. (Saves a lot of PTE allocation/setup/teardown work.)

But between NT4, W2K, and XP, for DirectX-based games, IMHO, W2K is the best out of the three.

 

[ohnnyj]

Was this just an isolated incident, though. The original post indicated a single instance where someone could not get it to work. Has anyone else tried it?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I would like to add here that all those Intel users with HT CPU's cannot use windows 2000 if they want proper HT operations. Windows 2000 does not fully support HT. XP does.
But, don't take my word for it. Here it is from Intel. Here
There was a rumour long ago about a Service Pack 4 "rollup" that would enable HT support for W2K. But that hasn't happened.

Actually, if you read the technical whitepapers from MS, which I clearly documented in that long thead about this in the OS forum, W2K SP4 does support HT. At least on the technical side. The difference between W2K and XP's support of HT-capable Intel CPUs, is primarily one of software licensing. So in that sense, I suppose you could claim that W2K doesn't "fully" support HT. But it does technically support HT, although the CPUs appear to the OS as a SMP setup. Intel's document that you referenced is nothing more than marketing FUD designed to push their HT-enabled CPUs.

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
So, If you want proper HT support, Use XP.

Interesting, TechReport did an article on XP Gold vs XP SP1, testing claimed HT support improvements, and performance with XP SP1 on an HT-enabled CPU, for their benchmarks, actually went down. I found that to be a bit funny.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: BouZouki
Many users say SLI will NOT be able to run in windows 2000.

Well, I tried a few times with fresh win2k installations and I can't make it work, each time I enable SLI and reboot a message appears on the nvidia icon taskbar saying something like "SLI has been disabled, one of your displays will go blank and bla, bla, bla...", no way.

I know most people use xp but still......... 2000 is a lot better for 3dmark01 😀

LOL- yeah, that's tragic. :roll:

No SLI on a five year old OS. I bet it doesn't work in DOS or OS2Warp either Bouzouki- you better post that breaking news too!

Yep. I TOTALLY agree! XP just has better support for games. Also, since you are building an SLI machine, you're going to be building it from scratch. WTF are you going to use W2K? What, you spent all your money on an SLI rig and can't come up with the big $93 for the newest MS OS? I say screw the W2K support for SLI.

 

[nitromullet]

I agree with what Rollo and JackBurton are saying here, but I do think that nVidia could be a bit more clear on what OS'es they do and do not support for SLI.

from their SLI FAQ:

What operating systems will be supported?
32-bit and 64-bit Windows and Linux OS (when available).

Isn't Win95 considered a 32-bit Windows OS?