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Sleep. That is right... Sleep

Degenerate

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i am doing well at school and mostly study till its fairly late. However, one day i had a question in mind. What is sleep? why do we need it? what do we gain from it? can we not have it because i think its a waste of time? Inmagine what a productive world it would be without it? extra 6-8 hr do to soo much more things. I call for biologists, doctors and anybody to give me some answers. Thanks.
 
Basically, sleep is necessary to repair any damage to cells, mainly nerve cells in the CNS. It also gives the CNS a chance to sort out 'experiences' you've had during the day.

Without sleep, damage would increase rapidly, and the affected individual would die. Not to mention the fact that this person would be complete insane and suffering from massive hallucinations before s/he would collapse.
 
I don't think anybody really knows - all we know is that not sleeping (or possibly not dreaming) has severe negative effects.
 
Anything biological needs nourishment and replenishment. Think for a second... just by being alive is wear and tear on the biological system.
 
there are 4 sleep phases, the first 2 are basically just chill out time, the other 2 are forms of Deep sleep REM(Rapid Eye Movement) sleep is the deep sleep that repairs your Brain, Delta sleep is the deep sleep that repairs your body. If you are lazy, you wont spend much time in Delta or REM. If you do physically demanding work all day, you will have longer Delta sleep, and less of everything else. If you do something mentally demanding all day, you will have mostly REM sleep. If you are both physically and mentally active in the same day, you will have closer to 50% REM and 50% Delta, and the other 2 are very short transitinal phases, but thats pretty extreme. But on avg it works out that most healthy people get about 25% of each of the 4 sleep modes. The guy who holds the world record for longest time being awake ( i think its 9 days, not sure) they monitored him when he went to sleep, he slept for 14 hours and spent almost exactly 7 hours in ech of the deep sleeps, and almost no time at all in the lesser sleep modes. The cycle in which you go through all 4 phases takes on avg 90 minutes, REM is the last one in the cycle, which is why it always seems like you have dreams right before you wake up. Delta is the hardest to wake up from, because your body is in its most dormant mode it can be, if your woken up in the middle of Delta, you feel like crap.
 
Now that I think about it, I've never seen a fish sleep? Do fish sleep? If not, what makes them different from other animals in that they do not need sleep? Could humans be conditioned or modified in some way that we would not need to sleep. I seem to remember an old X-files episode about that, but I'm looking for something a bit more scientific.
 
Just because fish don't have eyelids doesn't mean they never sleep. Different species have different ways of 'sleep.'
 
There is a popular book out there called Power Sleep by Maas. It gives an overview about what sleep is and why it is important. The guy is a sleep nut and so people invite him to talk shows to talk about sleep.
 
I always thought of it as a "defrag" for your mind. Your brain sorts and categorizes concepts and experiences during sleep. That's why you need to get a good night's sleep before exams!
 
My buddy worked in a sleep research lab at UCSD last summer and I asked him this very question and here is what I can remember from his response:

While awake some chemical tends to build up in your brain. This chemical is basically a toxin and messes with your head. When you sleep you release some other chemical that is able to decompose and get rid of that toxin. Now, when you taken caffeine or something like that I believe it just masks the effects of the toxin. So the toxin is still there, it's just masked.

That's my "scientific" answer...sorry i can't name any of the chemicals for you...and then again I may have completely not remembered the right things at all but I believe that is what he told me.
 
Without consulting my research books...

There are several chemicals in the brain (I want to say seratonin, and melatonin) and they need to be replenished/flushed, etc.

You need sleep, period. There are, however, new pills being made that allow you to work for days at a time without sleep, but you eventually physically can not function and need sleep at the end of the effective range of these pills.
 
Apparently, ducks can choose to sleep the right and left hemispheres of their brain at different times so they can choose to sleep one side at a time and still keep awake with the other.

On another note, could a body deprived of outside light be conditioned into a 12hr or 48 hr sleep cycle by altering his light cycle?

 
I also heard that birds (specifically to species only) sleep in air... so that they actually fly while sleeping. I really dont get it. We waste too much time sleeping. cant we do it more efficiently?
 
Sleep is a time for our body to break down lactic acid that builds up in our muscles as we work throughout the day....Thats why we need it. We also need Oxygen to break down this acid. Did you know that Casinos in Las Vegas have a higher % of Oxygen in the air so your body can break it down faster and you dont need to sleep as much?
 
well i remember reading that all cells have sorta sleep modes or something, its pretty universal. why, i dunno, i'm not sure anyone knows definitively, but going wihtout sleep for a certain period will kill you.
 


<< Basically, sleep is necessary to repair any damage to cells, mainly nerve cells in the CNS. It also gives the CNS a chance to sort out 'experiences' you've had during the day.

Without sleep, damage would increase rapidly, and the affected individual would die. Not to mention the fact that this person would be complete insane and suffering from massive hallucinations before s/he would collapse.
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As a school project on sleep deprivation i went 11 days without no sleep. I did this by doing intense activity every time i started to get tired and toped it off with coffee also the help of a few friends. BY day 9 i was seeing things and talking incohearnent(sp). Day 10 i was having cold chills and was more like some one on heavy drugs nothing made any sense and sillyest thing of all i was not tired nor did i feel the need to sleep. On the 11th and last day my whole body was in a state of decay and for the most part i had no idea wher i was at any time.

After taking some sleeping pills to get me to sleep i slept for 12.5 hours. and woke up with the worst cold i ever had. the cold lasted for about 2 weeks. Staying up for 11 days took a huge tool in my immune system.



Get some good friends and try it some time it would make a good paper.

PS I have also learned from army research that the human body can surrive, even thrive on as little as 2.5 hours sleep a day over extended periods of time
 
well CdnMade you might not have been sleepless as you think. after a certain period of time you start microsleeping, ppl don't even notice that they do it ussually which is why it is so dangerous. if you really want to test your ability to go without sleep you gotta be hooked up to equipment🙂
 


<< Sleep is a time for our body to break down lactic acid that builds up in our muscles as we work throughout the day....Thats why we need it. We also need Oxygen to break down this acid. Did you know that Casinos in Las Vegas have a higher % of Oxygen in the air so your body can break it down faster and you dont need to sleep as much? >>


Is that for real? I never heard about it, but I swear it seems like I don't need to sleep in Vegas at all.
 
Why wouldnt you wanna sleep, it feels so good? 🙂

Been up for ~60 hours without sleep once, basically played Quake during this time, mostly cause the second I stopped playing, I started getting REALLY tired really fast.

At the end, I slept for around 24 hours, and I dont think I've ever felt so good as when I woke up after those 24 hours.
 
I heard about this one study once where a mouse's brain output was measured while it was running a maze, and then while it was sleeping, and the two signals were almost the same.
 
Some nice info in here indeed. I really hate it when people say you need a rest!. Just want info on what sleep really does and i sure got some now. Any other contributions are welcome.
 


<< I heard about this one study once where a mouse's brain output was measured while it was running a maze, and then while it was sleeping, and the two signals were almost the same. >>



it was a learning experiment with rats. they found that during sleep, the rats appeared to dream about running throuh the maze, and would get through it much faster the next time they ran it.
 


<< BTW,

A guy in Taiwan died from exhaustion after staying up playing CS too much. So get some rest!
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- I thought it was another game, namely Everquest

- his death was mostly due to dehydration and not sleep deprivation.

- rest is important. One should take a break about every 2 hours.
 
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