Sleep/hybrid/hibernate/shut down

xcas

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I posted this in general hardware then realized it was probably in the wrong place. Sorry about that, not sure how or if you can delete threads here.

Just got a brand new desktop on an SSD with Windows 10 and a glorious GTX 980 Ti. I realized that I've never given this much thought: should I sleep, hybrid sleep, hibernate, or shut down? So far I've been pretty much solely hibernating and shutting down maybe once every few days to keep the OS stable. I'd hate to think I was causing long term damage, though.
Opinions across the web seem pretty varied, I just wanted to get the opinion of someone I know to be well informed, so I came to these forums. Should I shut down every night? Hibernate? Enable hybrid sleep? If I leave my computer intermittently, is it okay to frequently put it to sleep? Thanks, just a little concerned is all.
 

Ketchup

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When SSDs first came out Hibernate was the devil and thought to kill the life of the drive. In today's world people don't seem to care (unless they are still of that original mindset). Windows 10 knows not to defragment these, and that is the only "don't do" remaining with these drives.

So do whatever you did before. Personally, I leave my desktop on all the time, but put my laptop to sleep all the time, and both SSDs are running fine.
 

xcas

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When SSDs first came out Hibernate was the devil and thought to kill the life of the drive. In today's world people don't seem to care (unless they are still of that original mindset). Windows 10 knows not to defragment these, and that is the only "don't do" remaining with these drives.

So do whatever you did before. Personally, I leave my desktop on all the time, but put my laptop to sleep all the time, and both SSDs are running fine.

Yeah, that was pretty perfectly clear from the get go about not defragging. Still, I was a bit concerned for a while about Windows'. "Disk optimizer" feature which was set to weekly "optimizations". I asked about it and was told that, since my drive is listed as a solid state, it will never actually get defragmented, just "trimmed." I've left it on for this reason. I assume this is still true?
 

Charlie98

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Yeah, that was pretty perfectly clear from the get go about not defragging. Still, I was a bit concerned for a while about Windows'. "Disk optimizer" feature which was set to weekly "optimizations". I asked about it and was told that, since my drive is listed as a solid state, it will never actually get defragmented, just "trimmed." I've left it on for this reason. I assume this is still true?

Yes, trimming is a normal SSD function.

I was thinking about all the nutty stuff I did when I got my first SSD... disabling hibernation, superfetch/prefetch, no sleeping, using a spinner as a scratch drive to keep writes off the SSD... all that is unnecessary now. If memory serves, the SSD/sleep problem was with the SandForce controlled SSDs... but don't quote me on that.

I still don't sleep or hibernate my computers... they are either on or off. Boot time with a modern SSD and modern OS is so short, I don't bother with anything in between. Besides, I have stuff running on the computer when I'm away from it, anyway.
 

nerp

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I enable sleep/hybrid sleep. Saves power and with a newer machine it fires back up almost instantly. I see no reason to leave a machine running 24/7 anymore. There should be no harm in doing it at all with modern components. Just don't enable hibernate (it can create a large file).
 

topmounter

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I'm new to Windows 10 after an upgrade to an i5-6600k, ASUS Z170-A and a Samsung SSD. Sleep worked great for me on my old machine under Win7 (AMD Proc, Gigabyte Mobo, SSD). However this new build sleeps for an hour or two, but any longer than that and it shuts down completely and hitting the power button is a cold boot.

While there are numerous APM settings in the BIOS, I didn't see anything obvious that would need to be enabled to keep the computer in Sleep for longer periods of time.

I'm wondering if there is anything special that I need to do to get Sleep working properly in either the BIOS or in Windows 10.
 
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nerp

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Disable hybrid sleep. That will stop it from deep sleeping.
 

VeryCharBroiled

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used to leave all mine on 24/7, now just the freenas box is on 24/7. most are set to sleep after a couple hours.

htpc wakes up to record, goes to sleep after. all rigs in the house wake up at night to do backups, then go to sleep.

i do have hibernation setup on the htpc and daily driver just so the ups can hibernate them in case of power failure. other than that specific case, i dont hibernate desktops.

my notebook is a different matter. it hibernates when the power button is pressed. sleep may be very little power but hibernate is zero power. does it burn through writes, yup. but my intel x-25m sure doesnt seen to mind. almost unkillable
 
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