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Skype 6.3.0.107

i have a feeling the nsa can read/hear any convo in this country at all times anyway...

still sucks though. i guess it might be time to get my raspberry pi up and running asterisk...
 
Google Hangout is where it is at, I don't have to actually have the slow skype client anymore. Although I prefer hangout because I video chat with groups and on my tablet... And skype drains my battery while hangout doesn't. And I don't have to pay to group chat on hangout...
 
ill have to try hangout... i use skype because the call quality is really good even on cellular data, and everyone i know is familiar with and uses skype.
 
wirednuts said:
and everyone i know is familiar with and uses skype.
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and that's the main point why I use it after I abandoned MSN Messenger long back, this replaced it

I dont want to have the best messenger, but then have to convince people to switch to it. I want a standard, which is Skype nowadays
 
berryracer said:
and that's the main point why I use it after I abandoned MSN Messenger long back, this replaced it

I dont want to have the best messenger, but then have to convince people to switch to it. I want a standard, which is Skype nowadays
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yeah and its not that bad. i dont like the skype android app either, it pretty much sucks... but if i want 100% hassle free phone service ill open up my wallet and hand it over to verizon.

that said, i really wish someone (i guess ms is the only ones who can) would make a good android client for skype. AND the raspberry pi!!
 
lxskllr said:
I wouldn't use Skype, period. I don't care how convenient it is. If people want to get in touch with me, they can use some other method.

http://arstechnica.com/security/201...ssages-get-end-to-end-encryption-think-again/
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again, what service you suggest that you KNOW is 100% secure? the ones that are, nobody uses and if you have ever tried getting people to switch you know its basically impossible. it took me years of talking about skype and nobody bit on it.. it wasnt until they see movie stars use it on tv shows that they tried it and continue to use it.

i gave up. privacy on the internet is a sham. i use google voice for all my calls and texts, and skype for my client. so i am double de-privatized as even my skype calls run through google voice.

you know what i do to stay safe? dont communicate illegal things on those services. if you need to talk to someone secure, set up a vpn.
 
wirednuts said:
you know what i do to stay safe? dont communicate illegal things on those services. if you need to talk to someone secure, set up a vpn.
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"Illegal" is ethereal. It's not a statement of right or wrong, but of policy. What's legal today may be illegal tomorrow. You don't have to be put in jail to have your life made difficult.
 
lxskllr said:
"Illegal" is ethereal. It's not a statement of right or wrong, but of policy. What's legal today may be illegal tomorrow. You don't have to be put in jail to have your life made difficult.
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you might as well disconnect from the internet then :/

i understand if youre worried about identity theft and such... but again theres only so much you can do. so far, what microsoft is doing is just scanning text messages for spam. the voice calls seem to be off limits- but like i said earlier you dont have to worry about that either because our government has the ability to listen and interpret everything at once with their supercomputers... the capability of the nsa is godly.
 
wirednuts said:
...but like i said earlier you dont have to worry about that either because our government has the ability to listen and interpret everything at once with their supercomputers... the capability of the nsa is godly.
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They still can't break encryption they don't have a backdoor to. That'll certainly change. Encryption isn't a once and forever proposition. It requires one to be aware, and adaptable, but no one said freedom was easy or gratis.
 
lxskllr said:
They still can't break encryption they don't have a backdoor to. That'll certainly change. Encryption isn't a once and forever proposition. It requires one to be aware, and adaptable, but no one said freedom was easy or gratis.
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i believed that 10 years ago. but today we know quantum computing is real, and to think the nsa isnt using it would be absurd.

i think they can break most encryption in use in a matter of minutes... its just a hunch on my part, but i dont think anything we do online is invisible to the nsa- at least not if they are targeting you.
 
wirednuts said:
i believed that 10 years ago. but today we know quantum computing is real, and to think the nsa isnt using it would be absurd.

i think they can break most encryption in use in a matter of minutes... its just a hunch on my part, but i dont think anything we do online is invisible to the nsa- at least not if they are targeting you.
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I haven't seen evidence of that. There's been court cases that lost all (good)evidence due to encryption not being able to be broken. One possibility is the NSA didn't want to tip their hand for something they considered not important enough, but that's conspiracy theory territory.

If they somehow could break all encryption, it's still an expensive process, both in money and in time. Resources have to be prioritized, and it's my intention to make it not worth the time to look at me.
 
lxskllr said:
I haven't seen evidence of that. There's been court cases that lost all (good)evidence due to encryption not being able to be broken. One possibility is the NSA didn't want to tip their hand for something they considered not important enough, but that's conspiracy theory territory.
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not conspiracy at all. 9/11 happened because the nsa didnt want to share SHIT with the fbi, whitehouse, or anyone else. basically, they are their own entity, and if THEY feel they have info people should know about, only then do they share it. its entirely frightening, really, but they do it because they know if people knew what they know, shit would hit the fan in this country.

its also documented that they have data taps into all of the major networks in the country. they have a direct line to all of our internet activity, this is not a conspiracy, it has happened.

If they somehow could break all encryption, it's still an expensive process, both in money and in time. Resources have to be prioritized, and it's my intention to make it not worth the time to look at me.
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i completely agree with this, and obscurity in numbers is the only privacy we have online (and seemingly everywhere in real life too).
 
wirednuts said:
not conspiracy at all. 9/11 happened because the nsa didnt want to share SHIT with the fbi, whitehouse, or anyone else. basically, they are their own entity, and if THEY feel they have info people should know about, only then do they share it. its entirely frightening, really, but they do it because they know if people knew what they know, shit would hit the fan in this country.

its also documented that they have data taps into all of the major networks in the country. they have a direct line to all of our internet activity, this is not a conspiracy, it has happened.
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I understand all of that, but there's still outside research that gives insight into what's possible, even if governmental organizations don't communicate at all. Aside from intrusions such as backdoors, and encryption where a third party holds the key, I haven't seen evidence that modern cryptography is broken.
 
i thought it was proven it can be cracked with quantum computing though... funny how we dont hear of that technology often, yet you know they are working on it tirelessly...
 
wirednuts said:
i thought it was proven it can be cracked with quantum computing though... funny how we dont hear of that technology often, yet you know they are working on it tirelessly...
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I haven't heard that, but I haven't been following quantum computing closely. I was under the understanding that it was still in the proof of concept stage, where they're only performing simple tasks. QC certainly has a lot of potential, and it, or something else radical will be needed to advance, but I don't think it's currently ready for prime time. I'm open to documentation that says otherwise though. It's pretty interesting, even if I don't completely understand it :^)
 
there is a company already selling one, so you have to imagine the government has something a lot better and has had it for quite some time..

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2013/05/quantum-computer-kicks-pc-arse-in-first-ever-head-to-head-test/

thing is, most people dont even know how they work, and i certainly dont either. i have read about the theory behind it, and it doesnt make any sense (as with anything that deals in quantum physics). seemingly though, if you program them for specific tasks they are absolutely dominating traditional computing... speeds that will break aes encryption.
 
wirednuts said:
there is a company already selling one, so you have to imagine the government has something a lot better and has had it for quite some time..

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2013/05/quantum-computer-kicks-pc-arse-in-first-ever-head-to-head-test/

thing is, most people dont even know how they work, and i certainly dont either. i have read about the theory behind it, and it doesnt make any sense (as with anything that deals in quantum physics). seemingly though, if you program them for specific tasks they are absolutely dominating traditional computing... speeds that will break aes encryption.
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Interesting. I'm still not convinced, but I'll do some more reading on it later :^)
 
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