Skoorb's Audio thread #2: How can a human tell between two and 4 speakers going?

StageLeft

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If you're in a room and two speakers are in front of you one to either side how can you tell it is only whereas with 4 speakers (two in front and two behind you all perfectly spaced) you can tell there is 4? Since we have only two ears and all soundwaves must travel into each each how is it possible that I can tell when the rear left speaker is on vs the front left?

Does it have to do with some subtle identifying of frequencies hitting parts of my skull...?
 

911paramedic

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Great article HERE

The human body is really something when you study it.

(leave your gutter mind at the door please)
 

LordMaul

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<< Great article HERE

The human body is really something when you study it.

(leave your gutter mind at the door please)
>>




Who? Me?

:D
 

Frosty3799

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<<

<< Great article HERE

The human body is really something when you study it.

(leave your gutter mind at the door please)
>>




Who? Me?

:D
>>



Yes
 

StageLeft

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<< Great article HERE

The human body is really something when you study it.

(leave your gutter mind at the door please)
>>

So basically for a person who has closed eyes and their head locked in place and the speakers are perfectly set it does depend on soundwaves being detected by different parts of their body... I think I got that from the link ;)
 

gopunk

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learning about waves and stuff in class... it's amazing... the human ear can detect displacements of air molecules smaller than the diameter of atoms :Q
 

StageLeft

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<< learning about waves and stuff in class... it's amazing... the human ear can detect displacements of air molecules smaller than the diameter of atoms :Q >>

You go to class?!
 

gopunk

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<<

<< learning about waves and stuff in class... it's amazing... the human ear can detect displacements of air molecules smaller than the diameter of atoms :Q >>

You go to class?!
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not sure if this is surprise that i'm young, or surprise that i'm not a slacker :p

or maybe just surprise that i don't sit in front of my computer *all* the time... :eek:
 

StageLeft

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<<

<<

<< learning about waves and stuff in class... it's amazing... the human ear can detect displacements of air molecules smaller than the diameter of atoms :Q >>

You go to class?!
>>



not sure if this is surprise that i'm young, or surprise that i'm not a slacker :p

or maybe just surprise that i don't sit in front of my computer *all* the time... :eek:
>>

The second and third ones :)
 

gopunk

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heh, yes... i am determined to keep my grades up (they have been good for the past 4 quarters). :)
 

bizmark

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<< So basically for a person who has closed eyes and their head locked in place and the speakers are perfectly set it does depend on soundwaves being detected by different parts of their body... >>



Heheh don't know if this is a misspelling or what... but if you meant deflected, you're right. This stuff is really cool. Each person has his/her specific head related transfer function (HRTF) that tells him/her where the sound is coming from. Like, due to the shape of your head and outer ears, you might have a phase shift in the frequencies between 1000Hz and 1500Hz, for sounds that come from directly behind your head. If you heard such a sound from headphones, you couldn't tell me what the hell I did to it, but you'd tell me that it seemed like it came from behind you. Each person has different HRTFs (although I think that there are major 'groupings' of HRTFs, like fingerprints, so there's a lot of people who are 'similar' to you but not exactly like you), so if I played that same sound to someone else, they would just tell me that it sounded screwed up. That's why it took a long time for them to develop pseudo-surround headphones, and why even now they kind of suck for a lot of people.

It's kinda like if you see a baseball hit into the air, within 3 seconds you can tell me where it's going to land with pretty good precision (barring wind and stuff like that), but if I asked you the velocity of the ball, or to do the calculations even GIVEN the velocity and angle of the initial hit, you'd have no damn clue. All this stuff that our brain just *does* without us knowing it... it's really cool stuff :)
 

erikiksaz

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I thought that if the speakers were placed perfectly, we would not be able to detect the placement and number of speakers?