Skinny people Straight up LIE

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AnonymouseUser

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What was your exercise regimen?

In HS I played soccer (practice and/or games 6 days per week) and ran track, but after HS nothing significant. Years later I did bike for a couple of years. I gradually became sedentary after my back injuries (1999), and I still didn't gain anything for years.

I hate you so much. I'm currently 5'11" and 230 pounds.

While I'm pretty fat, at the same time I have a massive frame. For some reason, I just do NOT lose weight, even though I have a pretty good workout in my opinion. I think its because I try and gain muscle at the same time which limits my ability to lose pounds.

Every other day, I do cardio 1 hour of jogging at 6.0, and alternate with weightlifing. 40 Minutes of upper body (Bicep curls, rowboats, dumb bell bench presses, the works, along side core excersices) along with 20 minutes of leg works (400 pound squads, muscle specific exercises etc.)

I still don't go down in weight. Last year, I got really sick, and barely ate anything for a month. I lost like a pound at most. TELL ME YOUR SECRETS.

There are no secrets, it's purely genetic. I tried to gain weight because I was too skinny, and felt somewhat insecure because of it. I just wanted an extra 20-30lbs and couldn't get it.
 

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Fact of life #1: to stay skinny, one must eat shit and die, and to stay fat, to also eat shit and die.

It depends on how you fit into the scope of the shit spectrum. I like to stay in the middle and away from the extremes on each sides of the shit spectrum.
 
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Howard

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In HS I played soccer (practice and/or games 6 days per week) and ran track, but after HS nothing significant. Years later I did bike for a couple of years. I gradually became sedentary after my back injuries (1999), and I still didn't gain anything for years.
Yeah, it's easier to gain weight when you do strength training.
 

borisvodofsky

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This rant fails, from my understanding youre assuming every skinny person has some sort of workout routine etc to stay skinny... Its not possible just with genetics? Lol, then I dont exist...

I sit on my ass all day and dont really try to eat carefully (though I dont eat fast food either), Im 5'11" and weight 145 lbs... If thats not genetics then I dont know what is

Guess what either ,, you're probably fat and lying about it.. you just don't know it cuz skinny people lie to you. :eek:

AND ALSO, YOU DON"T EAT FAST FOOD,, heloooooo that's a big one there already that you should be telling the fat folks trying to better their weight.
 
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borisvodofsky

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As a used to be extremely skinny but someone who got a little fat.

It is damn simple. Calories in <= Calories out. If you want to increase the calories in then you need to exercise. This is pretty simple shit. I know when I am exceeding my daily calories for my exertion level.

When I was younger, I did nothing to stay skinny and actually had trouble gaining weight. Why you ask? I ran on the cross country team and averaged 45 miles a week running. I ate anything and everything in sight.

Like others, I sit at a desk most of the day and can't run due to knee issues. I had a hard time breaking my eat anything and everything method. It took me a while but I just adjusted by watching the number of calories I took it.

OK,, I see many proponents of calories in <= calories out.. This will only work if you can calculate EXACTLY how many calories you're spending each day.. This is seldom possible. and would have to be done EACH day.
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SphinxnihpS

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The answer is and will always be the same, no matter what weight you are, eating less will make you weigh less. Excercise and all that other crap is completely unecessary and extraneous to losing weight.
 

destrekor

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trans is a type of unsaturated fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis–trans_isomerism

When things have double bonds, they end up having a flat and triangular shape to them and it looks like >=<
If the chain extends in the upward direction on both sides, it's a "cis" configuration - same side. If one side of the chain approaches from the bottom and the other side approaches from the top, it's a "trans" configuration.

Trans is bad. It's similar to how you can't digest fiber, but instead of passing through it just clogs everything and gets in the way.



You're definitely right about avoid sugar-heavy meals. They make my blood sugar crash hard and I feel horrible afterward :\

Well yes, but it's a useless unsat fat. You want mono and polyunsaturated fat that is cis. It's helpful, because if you look at the nutrition label, subtract trans and saturated fats from total fat, and you're left with good fat. If there is actually mono- and polyunsurated fat listed on the label, it is definitely not trans (which can be either type of unsat, just in the "wrong" isomer). Saturated fat isn't bad either, but you want to keep it low - it's really only good for energy. In a low-carb diet, your body can process a lot of saturated fat, to the point that it's really not bad for you - unless, of course, you're eating like 40g of sat fat a day, that's not really a good idea.
 

ShawnD1

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OK,, I see many proponents of calories in <= calories out.. This will only work if you can calculate EXACTLY how many calories you're spending each day.. This is seldom possible. and would have to be done EACH day.
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OR you could just follow the government's guideline. ~2000 calories give or take is your target.

Lots of people go way way past that. My friend at I were at mcdicks and he ordered 20 chicken nuggets with a supersize coke. The nuggets alone are about 1000 calories and the drink is at least 300 calories. So that's 1300 calories, more than half a day worth of calories, in 1 meal.

Another hilariously awesome one is when people go to Subway and order a foot long spicy Italian with mayo and sub sauce. That's what I always get, and I think it works out to something like 1400 calories. I can't eat it in one sitting.

/tinfoil
can't trust the government, maaaaan
 

Ackmed

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Fact, all kinds of people lie. Woman, men, black, white, fat, skinny, etc.

Some people are just blessed with better genes than others. My wife has had two kids, and is 35 now. She is the exact same weight as when we got married 16 years ago. 5'8" 130. She doesnt diet, in fact she eats very poorly. Eats McDonalds or Sonic all the time. She does not work out at all. I keep on telling it will catch up to her one day, but that day hasnt came yet.

I work out, but dont really watch what I eat. But I too am pretty lucky as far as the genes go. Still pretty skinny for how I treat my body.

The answer is and will always be the same, no matter what weight you are, eating less will make you weigh less. Excercise and all that other crap is completely unecessary and extraneous to losing weight.

Not true at all. Exercising can, and does help. During Marine Corps boot camp, I ate like a horse, literally. Everyone did. I ate more then, than any point in my life. I lost about 10 pounds of fat, and put on about 10 pounds of muscle. Some people lost 30-40lbs while eating a ton of food. All because they ran us into the ground, and did some mean quarter decking.
 

destrekor

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OK,, I see many proponents of calories in <= calories out.. This will only work if you can calculate EXACTLY how many calories you're spending each day.. This is seldom possible. and would have to be done EACH day.
:confused::confused:

it's not hard at all to figure out a fair baseline.

A typical male BMR is going to be around 1600-1900 calories/day, and that's basically if you slept all day.

There are calculators readily available online that will calculate your BMR, and also tools to calculate calorie expenditure based on activity: how many hours you are simply standing around, how many hours you are sitting, how many hours/total distance walked, and of course more rigorous activity.

A lazy individual will likely have a total calorie output fairly close to the nutritional guideline of 2000 calories.

There's more to it than simply calorie numbers, although playing it strictly by calories is definitely an improvement over doing a haphazard diet plan.

Cutting back on carbs and replacing them with proteins and fats, while keeping calorie totals the same, you can still shed weight if you have lipids to burn.
 

borisvodofsky

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OR you could just follow the government's guideline. ~2000 calories give or take is your target.

Lots of people go way way past that. My friend at I were at mcdicks and he ordered 20 chicken nuggets with a supersize coke. The nuggets alone are about 1000 calories and the drink is at least 300 calories. So that's 1300 calories, more than half a day worth of calories, in 1 meal.

Another hilariously awesome one is when people go to Subway and order a foot long spicy Italian with mayo and sub sauce. That's what I always get, and I think it works out to something like 1400 calories. I can't eat it in one sitting.

/tinfoil
can't trust the government, maaaaan

Definitely can't trust the government. They're objective is to get you JUST sick enough and half dead to feed the medical bill which feeds the lobby.:(:(

If you're going to eat refined carbs, it will show.. that is all.:confused:
 

borisvodofsky

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it's not hard at all to figure out a fair baseline.

A typical male BMR is going to be around 1600-1900 calories/day, and that's basically if you slept all day.

There are calculators readily available online that will calculate your BMR, and also tools to calculate calorie expenditure based on activity: how many hours you are simply standing around, how many hours you are sitting, how many hours/total distance walked, and of course more rigorous activity.

A lazy individual will likely have a total calorie output fairly close to the nutritional guideline of 2000 calories.

There's more to it than simply calorie numbers, although playing it strictly by calories is definitely an improvement over doing a haphazard diet plan.

Cutting back on carbs and replacing them with proteins and fats, while keeping calorie totals the same, you can still shed weight if you have lipids to burn.

Why not make it simple and eat no refined carbs at all.. done.. :rolleyes:
 

destrekor

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The answer is and will always be the same, no matter what weight you are, eating less will make you weigh less. Excercise and all that other crap is completely unecessary and extraneous to losing weight.

YES, i agree..:thumbsup:

And that's why people are retarded. And also likely to result in minor malnutrition.

If you exercise, you afford yourself the ability to eat more, which means it is also likely you will be more healthy - you'll have a better opportunity to get proper amounts of essential fatty acids, the proper amount of essential amino acids, and the like.

To get all of those in your diet, while remaining in healthy shape, keeping to around 2000 calories, maintaining healthy blood pressure and proper ratios of lipids in serum (LDL, HDL, trigs)... you'd have to be basically living on an assortment of nutrition shakes and a large assortment of pills. By far one of the most expensive ways to live, just to maintain you're lazy approach to life.
And I still don't think it would work all that well - you cannot match the level of health of someone who actually uses the body in ways which mimic how it has adapted to life.
 

destrekor

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Why not make it simple and eat no refined carbs at all.. done.. :rolleyes:

Because they are a good energy source for someone who actually uses all the available assets of the human body?

If you want to eat absolutely zero refined carbs, more power to you. It's more expensive and requires more time to stick to that rule 100%. It's easiest, and most affordable, to limit refined carb intake, at the same time as limiting total carb intake regardless of the style of said carbs.
 

SphinxnihpS

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And that's why people are retarded. And also likely to result in minor malnutrition.

If you exercise, you afford yourself the ability to eat more, which means it is also likely you will be more healthy - you'll have a better opportunity to get proper amounts of essential fatty acids, the proper amount of essential amino acids, and the like.

To get all of those in your diet, while remaining in healthy shape, keeping to around 2000 calories, maintaining healthy blood pressure and proper ratios of lipids in serum (LDL, HDL, trigs)... you'd have to be basically living on an assortment of nutrition shakes and a large assortment of pills. By far one of the most expensive ways to live, just to maintain you're lazy approach to life.
And I still don't think it would work all that well - you cannot match the level of health of someone who actually uses the body in ways which mimic how it has adapted to life.

I didn't say a god damned thing about being healthy.
 

Rhoxed

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I went from 260lbs to 175lbs ( 6'4" ) in about 6 months time after my mom passed away (I was 17 going on 18 - 24 now) still weigh 175.

It was probably due to stress and loss of appetite. But I eat just about anything now, though I work in a kitchen and sweat buckets.
 

ShawnD1

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And that's why people are retarded. And also likely to result in minor malnutrition.

I've heard before that you should try to eat different food instead of eating less food. Eating nothing is bad, but eating a salad with low fat dressing is low in calories but high in vitamins :D
 

borisvodofsky

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I've heard before that you should try to eat different food instead of eating less food. Eating nothing is bad, but eating a salad with low fat dressing is low in calories but high in vitamins :D

Or make it easy, and just down a bunch of apples/bananas/pears cheapest wholesale store foods, and chicken breast

Seriously if someone just lived on costco, OMG he'd be uber healthy..:D:D:(:rolleyes:o_O:cool::(:thumbsup:
 

ShawnD1

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I know I just ate lunch, but I would totally choke a bitch for a watermelon. Those things are so delicious. *droool*
 

shortylickens

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Theres no mystery to getting in shape. Fat people are fat for a reason. They arent willing to eat healthy and work out. They keep asking for secrets as if theres some magic easy way to lose weight.
If that were true there wouldn't BE any fucking fat people in the world!

Skinny people probably get tired of explaining physical fitness over and over so they just brush it off with quick explanation. I dont blame them. The only person obligated to help you get skinny is your personal trainer. And you pay him.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Theres no mystery to getting in shape. Fat people are fat for a reason. They arent willing to eat healthy and work out. They keep asking for secrets as if theres some magic easy way to lose weight.
If that were true there wouldn't BE any fucking fat people in the world!

Skinny people probably get tired of explaining physical fitness over and over so they just brush it off with quick explanation. I dont blame them. The only person obligated to help you get skinny is your personal trainer. And you pay him.

Working out is NOT required. Fat people are fat for one reason, eating more than daily than their daily calorie burn. Once again, exercise is extraneous.