Situation at work...what would you do? *UPDATE*

Drakkon

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So I have this position at the university where I am one of the top programmers for web classes on campus...I've been working here for 2 years and am doing alright except for the fact my boss is a compleate moron and B*tch to boot...
So today i get this assignment to check out some files...and i delegate them to the underlings...but i forget to CC: her on ONE of them...noticing this i email her immediately and let her know whats going on and that i forgot...no big deal right? at least i didnt think so....
So now she schedules this meeting tomorrow to disscuss this "oversight"...I'm kinda like wtf is going on here...I didn't think i did anything that wrong...
Its a constant struggle like this....shes supposed to be the systems support analyst but doesn't know which servers on campus can run php and which ones can run asp...she has no idea how to program in anything but Director...and has made the interesting observation that java and javascript arent that much different at all :confused: and whenever it takes me longer or whatever than expected to complete something she gets crazy like this and thinks I'm doing something wrong. She already fired one guy i worked with for not agreeing with her enough...ive learned to just kinda roll with the punches so far...but for this? its gone too far this time....
And then the other interesting twist is that i plan on graduating at the end of this semester....and the depratment I work at (my boss' boss) made me apply for a job where I'd be working with her not for her...which isn't that much better imho
So the question is what is the best course of action at this meeting tomorrow?
Part of me just wants to say "I quit....this aint worth putting up with especially during my last semster here"...but then that sacrifices the job here which is pretty decent pay for what id be doing (same thing as now just more intereaction with faculty)...and im not too sure what else is out there for us web programmers these days...its looking fairly slim


*UPDATE* So first thing when i got into work this morning I decided the best course of action was to talk to the person in between my direct boss and the big boss...and that turned out to be the best decision of all. I told her the situation and how I felt and she was even more supportive about what could be done, will be done, and how they really dont want to loose me. She was going to have a meeting with her later today and she would do her best to resolve things without brining the fact up that i brought this to her attention in the first place.
So then this afternoon just had the metting with my boss and her attitude had signifigantly changed. I was greeted with a "hi howya doing" and she decided to discuss current projects instead of my "attitude"...so all in all things went ok....my boss' superiors knows that I'm not happy and I made it pretty clear of that and she turned her blow ups of yesterday into no big deals today for some reason ;) all i can say is thank god for the upper upps...i hope all of em are as cool as mine are right now....although I'll keep hoping my boss gets better :-/
 

Eli

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Tough situation.

I'm not really sure what to recommend. It could go both ways.
 

Need4Speed

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be happy u got a job...i had a boss like that too...just gotta roll with it or approach her on it politely and try to sort this out....
 

Mr N8

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Take copies of the emails, with the time stamps on them. It will be obvious to everyone except for her that what you did was perfectly fine. Appologize for the oversight, but emphasize that it was taken care of immediately.
 

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Originally posted by: Need4Speed
be happy u got a job...i had a boss like that too...just gotta roll with it or approach her on it politely and try to sort this out....

Yup. Have to agree.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: MogulMonster
Take copies of the emails, with the time stamps on them. It will be obvious to everyone except for her that what you did was perfectly fine. Appologize for the oversight, but emphasize that it was taken care of immediately.

 

nitsuj3580

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go to the meeting and see what her beef is. maybe it isn't a big deal.

are you banking on this job out of college or have you been interviewing with other companies? If you expect this job out of college, I'd just go with the flow and put up with the BS for now until you are out from under her control.
 
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I wouldn't work anything out until you get that new job. Until then its all vaporware. Once you get that new job you will be in a much better position to work it out as colleagues.
 

Mr N8

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Go to the meeting, appologize, go on with life.

You obviously have never dealt with a situtation like this. She isn't looking for an appology, she's looking to show that she's the big, bad powerful female of the office. Walking in and just saying I'm sorry would accomplish nothing. Unless he comes to her with hard facts, she will just continue to piss and moan the whole time about irresponsibilty, etc.

Most likely she knows Drakkon is much more qualified than she is, and it scares her. To get him out of there would be great for her job. An appology only could end up in him getting fired, possible hurting his chances for the future job.
 

Raiden256

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So.... is she hot? :D


j/k -- Living with the same situation here. Just gotta roll with it as others have said, unless you have other employment prospects...
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: MogulMonster
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Go to the meeting, appologize, go on with life.

You obviously have never dealt with a situtation like this. She isn't looking for an appology, she's looking to show that she's the big, bad powerful female of the office. Walking in and just saying I'm sorry would accomplish nothing. Unless he comes to her with hard facts, she will just continue to piss and moan the whole time about irresponsibilty, etc.

You are obviously not qualified to make judgement on my work experience. I have been in a multitude of situations and that's how I approach situations. Unlike some people, I don't care if the boss whats to flaunt his or her power. I say let them do it. I have bigger and better things to be concerned about other than my bosses power trips.

And even if someone comes with hard facts, she'll refute them, make that person look like a fool and continue on with her rant.

Life's too short to get worked up over these little things. I, for one, choose my battles. This one doesn't sound like it's worth fighting over. That's my outlook and approach.

If you think some fact is going to change her attitude at this meeting, you have alot to learn about people.
 

Drakkon

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Most likely she knows Drakkon is much more qualified than she is, and it scares her. To get him out of there would be great for her job. An appology only could end up in him getting fired, possible hurting his chances for the future job.
This is EXACTLY what happend to the last guy....he was a Flash/CSS/XML whiz kid...he is considered one of the best among the people here on campus...she actually fired him though because of the fact he would constnatly show her up and she didnt like it...
I'm thinking roll with it through tomorrow...see what she has to say....if what she says i dont like talk to her boss...and decide with him (since he is her boss and we get along much better) if its in my best interest to quit now or if something can be done to improve my situation....we've already had that talk a couple times sadly enough...
 

Ameesh

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i havent even read the thread but i know the answer will either be

1) DH!TB
2) 50 cal.

 

lowtech1

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Arse kissing is what you have to do to work at a public fund institution. The people at the top don?t hire people that are skill?they hire their friends or people that tolerate their childish tantrum.
 

alm4rr

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I'd say swallow the pride for a few more weeks. Get a good recommendation and then leave on good terms.
 

shimsham

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be a snake in the grass. roll with it, but keep her boss informed of it. graduate, take the job working with her and continue show her up since you would then be her colleague and she cant take credit. that will drive her crazy, and she will hang herself, career-wise. patience.....

 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: MogulMonster
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Go to the meeting, appologize, go on with life.

You obviously have never dealt with a situtation like this. She isn't looking for an appology, she's looking to show that she's the big, bad powerful female of the office. Walking in and just saying I'm sorry would accomplish nothing. Unless he comes to her with hard facts, she will just continue to piss and moan the whole time about irresponsibilty, etc.

Most likely she knows Drakkon is much more qualified than she is, and it scares her. To get him out of there would be great for her job. An appology only could end up in him getting fired, possible hurting his chances for the future job.

At first I agreed with you, but I do think there is more to this story than meets the eye.

Either way, yes, he should take the emails with time stamps to the meeting, stay calm and collected, and go with it.
 

CQuinn

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Do you have a tape recorder? Or can you borrow one?

Check your state laws as to whether or not you have to inform her that you want to
tape the meeting.

Let her boss know that you are planning to do so. Send him an email explaining what
the situation is and that you do not feel comfortable dealing with her under the circumstances. If possible, see if he is willing to sit in on the meeting too.
(Although that might torque her off even more...).

If you do decide to let her know you are recording, and she refuses to take part, then
make a note of that, as well as trying to keep detailed notes of the meeting to bring
up with her boss later.

Later, get all your correspondence together (email and paper) that can show what working
with her is like, see if you can get cooroborating statements (or agreement) from other
co-workers, and try to contact the guy that was fired to get his point-of-view.

Don't quit... If it can be shown that this is an ongoing pattern then you may have
enough ammo to at least file a complaint of workplace harrassment against her, and
either have her removed, or give an "attitude ajustment", or getting you placed in
some other position that is less likely to impair your work. You sound like you have
an advantage in that her boss recognizes you as a valued employee.

Whatever happens, don't let it stress you... Thats what she wants to be put in a better
position of control over the situation. It may also help if you can find something positive
to report on first thing.

 

You can either take the push over stance, or the commanding stance.
Go to her superiors and voice your situation.

Posting to a bunch of kids where the majority has never held a gainfully employed position, isn't going to net you any useful results.