Sis745 boards?? Lets discuss

[Duvie]

1)PLease list the companies you have heard are going to make a sis745 board...

2) List unique features, lan, firewire ports, voltage adjustment, other ocing options

3) What seem to be the major enhancements

4) I read a review that showed boards with A1 stepping are now right up there with kt266a boards..What have you read???

5) Will the board have a bios option 133/166 to run the memory out of synch to the cpu? It states there is support for pc2700, but I want to know if they just mean if you can oc the board to 166mhz fsb to get it...

 

[Daovonnaex]

<< 1)PLease list the companies you have heard are going to make a sis745 board...

2) List unique features, lan, firewire ports, voltage adjustment, other ocing options

3) What seem to be the major enhancements

4) I read a review that showed boards with A1 stepping are now right up there with kt266a boards..What have you read???

5) Will the board have a bios option 133/166 to run the memory out of synch to the cpu? It states there is support for pc2700, but I want to know if they just mean if you can oc the board to 166mhz fsb to get it... >>


1. ECS and Leadtek (I think)
2. No idea.
3. Support for XMS2700 memory.
4. Absolutely nothing (I'd like linkage, please).
5. It will, just like the ALi MAGiK1 and the Via KT333.

 

[Duvie]

Go to ocworkbench and under ecs 2002 forum do a search for k7s6a and you fill find a thread that links to 2 of them one is with a0 stepping and the other is to a1 stepping...

 

[ZimZum]

<< 1)PLease list the companies you have heard are going to make a sis745 board...

>>


From ocworkbench

Chaintech
ECS
PCChips
Asus
Abit
AOpen
MSI
Shuttle
Epox

 

[Duvie]

It is good to see the names like asus and epox in there...Now hopefully the sis asus board will have a decent price like their sis645 p4 board...

What about features...who will use the onboard firewire support of the sis745???

 

[Daovonnaex]

<< It is good to see the names like asus and epox in there...Now hopefully the sis asus board will have a decent price like their sis645 p4 board...

What about features...who will use the onboard firewire support of the sis745??? >>

I hope they all do...consumers need more incentive to use IEEE 1394 so that USB 2.0 can be stopped on the PC side of things.

 

[FrostyFlakes]

i want to see onboard firewire and onboard lan. and i agree with Daovonnaex, they need to add the firewire so they can stop the usb2. 80mb/s more but then u have to switch everything up to now that used firewire.
i'm looking forward to production of boards from other companies. hopefully they won't forget the two items mentioned above. also, hope the asynchronous memory/fsb was fixed.

 

[Duvie]

I have heard maybe leadtek is going to make one as well...huh???

I agree firewire a must, voltage adjustments a must...

Multplier adjustments how likely???

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I think that it's highly likely that Abit will use the Softmenu on the KS7 giving us all the overclocking options.

 

[NFS4]

<< i want to see onboard firewire and onboard lan. and i agree with Daovonnaex, they need to add the firewire so they can stop the usb2. 80mb/s more but then u have to switch everything up to now that used firewire.
i'm looking forward to production of boards from other companies. hopefully they won't forget the two items mentioned above. also, hope the asynchronous memory/fsb was fixed. >>


Stop USB 2.0 for what? Everyone uses USB peripherals and it has a MUCH larger install base than Firewire. USB 2.0 is just a logical extension of that.

 

[FrostyFlakes]

my mistake forgot it was backwards compat sorry for being so dumb.

 

[Daovonnaex]

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<< i want to see onboard firewire and onboard lan. and i agree with Daovonnaex, they need to add the firewire so they can stop the usb2. 80mb/s more but then u have to switch everything up to now that used firewire.
i'm looking forward to production of boards from other companies. hopefully they won't forget the two items mentioned above. also, hope the asynchronous memory/fsb was fixed. >>


Stop USB 2.0 for what? That is the dumbest thing I've heard all week. Everyone uses USB peripherals and it has a MUCH larger install base than Firewire. USB 2.0 is just a logical extension of that. >>

I really dislike USB...too much CPU utilization and another Intel plot to offload calculations to the CPU. I don't have a single USB peripheral.

 

[NFS4]

<< I really dislike USB...too much CPU utilization and another Intel plot to offload calculations to the CPU. I don't have a single USB peripheral. >>


It doesn't matter what YOU think. That's irrelevant and has absolutely NO bearing on standards in the PC industry. That's like me saying that I dislike Hyundais. Who cares??!!

The fact of the matter is, USB is a cheap and efficient standard that has replaced serial and parallel ports for the most part. Firewire has been limited to high-end multimedia applications which is all well and good. USB devices outnumber Firewire handily. It's not even close.

USB handles everything from mice, keyboards, scanners, printers, PDAs, webcams, hard drives, CDRW drives, gamepads, compactflash/smartmeda readers, cameras, etc. You get my drift?? USB 2.0 is just a logical extension of the standard which offers 40 times the speed and backwards compatibility.

Firewire has no place in the low-speed market with such items as keyboards and mice. It's overkill. USB is taking over that market, and moving up to Firewire speeds with USB 2.0. And USB devices don't kill your CPU. Sure, they may take up some CPU time, but it doesn't tax it.

The point is, USB/USB 2.0 has its place, Firewire has it place. To suggest the EITHER be outright killed is downright FOOLISH:|

ANd you conspiracy theorists need to get a grip. "Intel's wild scheme." Give me a break:disgust:

 

[Daovonnaex]

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<< I really dislike USB...too much CPU utilization and another Intel plot to offload calculations to the CPU. I don't have a single USB peripheral. >>


It doesn't matter what YOU think. That's irrelevant and has absolutely NO bearing on standards in the PC industry. That's like me saying that I dislike Hyundais. Who cares??!! >>

I don't like Hyundais either.



<< The fact of the matter is, USB is a cheap and efficient standard that has replaced serial and parallel ports for the most part. Firewire has been limited to high-end multimedia applications which is all well and good. USB devices outnumber Firewire handily. It's not even close. >>

I agree there.



<< USB handles everything from mice, keyboards, scanners, printers, PDAs, webcams, hard drives, CDRW drives, gamepads, compactflash/smartmeda readers, cameras, etc. You get my drift?? USB 2.0 is just a logical extension of the standard which offers 40 times the speed and backwards compatibility. >>

True--but 2.0 is simply unnecessary. 1.1 isn't bad, though.



<< Firewire has no place in the low-speed market with such items as keyboards and mice. It's overkill. USB is taking over that market, and moving up to Firewire speeds with USB 2.0. And USB devices don't kill your CPU. Sure, they may take up some CPU time, but it doesn't tax it. >>

This is true, though IEEE 1394 2.0 wil be at 1344 Mbps (should be out soon).



<< The point is, USB/USB 2.0 has its place, Firewire has it place. To suggest the EITHER be outright killed is downright FOOLISH:| >>

USB and IEEE 1394 do, but USB 2.0 is unnecessary.



<< ANd you conspiracy theorists need to get a grip. "Intel's wild scheme." Give me a break:disgust: >>

Anything that is serial (and fast, usually) and/or offloads to the CPU is an Intel plot. By the way, did you know that a vast government conspiracy killed JFK and RFK?

 

[NFS4]

<< True--but 2.0 is simply unnecessary. 1.1 isn't bad, though. >>




<< USB and IEEE 1394 do, but USB 2.0 is unnecessary. >>


USB 2.0 is necessary b/c no one is supporting Firewire on a motherboard level. How many motherboards have USB 1.1 onboard. ALL of them. How many motherboard have Firewire built in? Practially ZERO! How many motherboards have USB 2.0 support? Almost every new motherboard coming out in the past month and the future. Get my drift?

It's all about support. USB has the vast support network, Firewire doesn't. Simple as that.

 

[Daovonnaex]

<< USB 2.0 is necessary b/c no one is supporting Firewire on a motherboard level. How many motherboards have USB 1.1 onboard. ALL of them. How many motherboard have Firewire built in? Practially ZERO! How many motherboards have USB 2.0 support? Almost every new motherboard coming out in the past month and the future. Get my drift?

It's all about support. USB has the vast support network, Firewire doesn't. Simple as that. >>

Hence my previous comments about the SiS 745 being good to help counter USB 2.0.

 

[Duvie]

Lets all agree firewire would be a nice addition and move on...usb in too entrenched to be uprooted now....

I would like to try to keep the information coming on the sis745 to qustions I asked above...


Bump...

 

[NFS4]

<< Lets all agree firewire would be a nice addition and move on...usb in too entrenched to be uprooted now....

I would like to try to keep the information coming on the sis745 to qustions I asked above...


Bump... >>


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