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Sirus or XM?

Originally posted by: glen
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I'm an XM subscriber (and love it), but Sirius has more NPR, If I remember correctly they have at least 2 full NPR/PRI stations.
XM has hired Bob Edwards (from NPR) and they have XMPR with many PRI shows.
 
Originally posted by: jdini76
This isn't a satellite forum, please explain your acronyms! NPR/MPR or what ever!

The acronyms are not satellite related.
NPR = National Public Radio
PRI = Public Radio International

not sure where you got MPR from

edit: XMPR = XM (radio) + Public Radio (I assume that's where you got MPR from now)
 
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Neither - or is it niether...

They both sound like 96Kbps mp3's. SUCKTASTIC.

I must disagree, direct connections sound great. FM modulator installs (the most common) have audio issues.

 
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Neither - or is it niether...

They both sound like 96Kbps mp3's. SUCKTASTIC.

I must disagree, direct connections sound great. FM modulator installs (the most common) have audio issues.

Nope, the person I ride to work with just had Sirius installed in an in-dash head unit (Kenwood? It has a built in Sirius receiver.) - and I must say it sounds craptastic. You can literally feel the digital-ness of it. High frequency sounds sound very tinny and "compressed". Just like a low-bitrate mp3.
 
Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: jdini76
This isn't a radio forum, please explain your acronyms! NPR/MPR or what ever!

fixed then.

alot of us here have satellite radio, the rest of us probably know what NPR is...

this is an off topic forum. radio is off topic from computer tech.....



 
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Neither - or is it niether...

They both sound like 96Kbps mp3's. SUCKTASTIC.

I must disagree, direct connections sound great. FM modulator installs (the most common) have audio issues.

Nope, the person I ride to work with just had Sirius installed in an in-dash head unit (Kenwood? It has a built in Sirius receiver.) - and I must say it sounds craptastic. You can literally feel the digital-ness of it. High frequency sounds sound very tinny and "compressed". Just like a low-bitrate mp3.

I have my oldest unit plugged into a pair of computer speakers in the garage and it sounds better than the CD player or radio plugged into the same speakers. Again mine is XM not Sirius so I can only use that as an example, but it sounds great when installed properly.



 
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: jdini76
This isn't a radio forum, please explain your acronyms! NPR/MPR or what ever!

fixed then.

alot of us here have satellite radio, the rest of us probably know what NPR is...

this is an off topic forum. radio is off topic from computer tech.....

I am by no means saying not to talk about it, but don't alienate people by talking in lingo that some users don't know. I may have been the minority in not knowing what it meant, but I would like to know what it means without having to ask.
 
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Neither - or is it niether...

They both sound like 96Kbps mp3's. SUCKTASTIC.

I must disagree, direct connections sound great. FM modulator installs (the most common) have audio issues.

Nope, the person I ride to work with just had Sirius installed in an in-dash head unit (Kenwood? It has a built in Sirius receiver.) - and I must say it sounds craptastic. You can literally feel the digital-ness of it. High frequency sounds sound very tinny and "compressed". Just like a low-bitrate mp3.

It's true
<-- Sirius Subscriber

At first I thought it was just my receiver. Then I heard my brother-in-law's XM and it didn't sound any better. They both use compression and it's noticable. Especially listening to drums/cymbals, etc. Anybody who says otherwise is either in denial or deaf. The talk radio stations are so compressed that they sound like AM radio, no kidding! Oh yeah, you still get commercials on the talk stations (p!ssed me off when I found this out).

Terrestrial FM sounds 100,000 times better than satellite, but the satellite programming available is something ground-based stations will never have so pick your poison.

My .02
 
Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: jdini76
This isn't a radio forum, please explain your acronyms! NPR/MPR or what ever!

fixed then.

alot of us here have satellite radio, the rest of us probably know what NPR is...

this is an off topic forum. radio is off topic from computer tech.....

I am by no means saying not to talk about it, but don't alienate people by talking in lingo that some users don't know. I may have been the minority in not knowing what it meant, but I would like to know what it means without having to ask.


Sorry if you feel alienated, but the acronym NPR and PRI are very common and most people know what they mean. I usually say NBC rather than National Broadcasting Company.
Sorry, no offense, but it's not just "lingo", It's what people call it.

 
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: jdini76
This isn't a radio forum, please explain your acronyms! NPR/MPR or what ever!

fixed then.

alot of us here have satellite radio, the rest of us probably know what NPR is...

this is an off topic forum. radio is off topic from computer tech.....

I am by no means saying not to talk about it, but don't alienate people by talking in lingo that some users don't know. I may have been the minority in not knowing what it meant, but I would like to know what it means without having to ask.


Sorry if you feel alienated, but the acronym NPR and PRI are very common and most people know what they mean. I usually say NBC rather than National Broadcasting Company.
Sorry, no offense, but it's not just "lingo", It's what people call it.

whatever...
 
Originally posted by: overturfa
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Neither - or is it niether...

They both sound like 96Kbps mp3's. SUCKTASTIC.

I must disagree, direct connections sound great. FM modulator installs (the most common) have audio issues.

Nope, the person I ride to work with just had Sirius installed in an in-dash head unit (Kenwood? It has a built in Sirius receiver.) - and I must say it sounds craptastic. You can literally feel the digital-ness of it. High frequency sounds sound very tinny and "compressed". Just like a low-bitrate mp3.

It's true
<-- Sirius Subscriber

At first I thought it was just my receiver. Then I heard my brother-in-law's XM and it didn't sound any better. They both use compression and it's noticable. Especially listening to drums/cymbals, etc. Anybody who says otherwise is either in denial or deaf. The talk radio stations are so compressed that they sound like AM radio, no kidding! Oh yeah, you still get commercials on the talk stations (p!ssed me off when I found this out).

Terrestrial FM sounds 100,000 times better than satellite, but the satellite programming available is something ground-based stations will never have so pick your poison.

My .02

This may also depend on the receiver used etc... I have a Kenwood headunit with a kenwood sirius tuner. No it's not perfect quality, but it surely is not bad. Id say 192kbit MP3 quality or so, atleast for the stations I listen to most often (Octane and a few other rock stations).
 
Originally posted by: Dulanic
Originally posted by: overturfa
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Neither - or is it niether...

They both sound like 96Kbps mp3's. SUCKTASTIC.

I must disagree, direct connections sound great. FM modulator installs (the most common) have audio issues.

Nope, the person I ride to work with just had Sirius installed in an in-dash head unit (Kenwood? It has a built in Sirius receiver.) - and I must say it sounds craptastic. You can literally feel the digital-ness of it. High frequency sounds sound very tinny and "compressed". Just like a low-bitrate mp3.

It's true
<-- Sirius Subscriber

At first I thought it was just my receiver. Then I heard my brother-in-law's XM and it didn't sound any better. They both use compression and it's noticable. Especially listening to drums/cymbals, etc. Anybody who says otherwise is either in denial or deaf. The talk radio stations are so compressed that they sound like AM radio, no kidding! Oh yeah, you still get commercials on the talk stations (p!ssed me off when I found this out).

Terrestrial FM sounds 100,000 times better than satellite, but the satellite programming available is something ground-based stations will never have so pick your poison.

My .02

This may also depend on the receiver used etc... I have a Kenwood headunit with a kenwood sirius tuner. No it's not perfect quality, but it surely is not bad. Id say 192kbit MP3 quality or so, atleast for the stations I listen to most often (Octane and a few other rock stations).

I'm actually using an outboard unit (Orbiter I think it's called) but I have it direct connected to my stereo (no modulator). And admittedly it's not bad, but is definatly not CD or even FM quality either.
 
Satellite radio quality is about cassette quality (without the hiss), or maybe a little bit worse.

It's actually a variable amount of compression, depending upon what else is on at the time.

XM sounds a little better than Sirius, that seems to be the consensus.

Neither of them are in the league of CD quality audio. Though, they do sound better than FM on most stations.
 
I now have an XM Delphi Skyfi2, I also have a first gen SkyFi, plus a first gen Sony Plug n Play (I've had XM since they started).
Direct wired they all sound great. I cannot comment on head units since I've only been in rentals for a day or so. I can say that direct wired, the units I have sound great, nothing to worry about.
 
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Neither - or is it niether...

They both sound like 96Kbps mp3's. SUCKTASTIC.

I must disagree, direct connections sound great. FM modulator installs (the most common) have audio issues.


If you have well trained ears you can most definitely hear the compression. However, I only use XM for opie & anthony and rarely listen to music so I could care less.
 
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Neither - or is it niether...

They both sound like 96Kbps mp3's. SUCKTASTIC.

I must disagree, direct connections sound great. FM modulator installs (the most common) have audio issues.

Nope, the person I ride to work with just had Sirius installed in an in-dash head unit (Kenwood? It has a built in Sirius receiver.) - and I must say it sounds craptastic. You can literally feel the digital-ness of it. High frequency sounds sound very tinny and "compressed". Just like a low-bitrate mp3.

I have my oldest unit plugged into a pair of computer speakers in the garage and it sounds better than the CD player or radio plugged into the same speakers. Again mine is XM not Sirius so I can only use that as an example, but it sounds great when installed properly.

This just means you have a shtty CD player
 
I don't know which is better technically or programming-wise, but I'd vote for Sirius. My stock portfolio will thank you for supporting the business.
 
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