Siri: Where can I hide a body?

[Kaido]

http://gizmodo.com/yep-a-murder-suspect-actually-asked-siri-where-to-hide-1620724727

D:

Florida man Pedro Bravo is accused of murdering his friend Christian Aguilar and burying the body in nearby woods—not one of Siri's suggestions—in September of 2012. And now records from his phone, which were only just presented to the jury at his trial, show he mentioned to Siri "I need to hide my roommate," to which she gave her cheeky but also sorta kinda pretty useful "joke" answer, seen above.

Perhaps even more damningly, the phone's location data also blows up Bravo's alibi, while other data indicates the flashlight was turned on 9 times and used for over 48 minutes on the night in question. It doesn't take a virtual assistant to figure out what that might be all about.

D: D: D:

 

[Scarpozzi]

I think Siri works for the NSA.

 

[PlanetJosh]

I didn't want to start this thread. I figured someone else would. Not that I have anything to hide.

 

[MrDudeMan]

I don't normally care about my phone keeping track of what I do with it. I'm not paranoid and I don't feel like it's any kind of violation since I can choose what data to give it (mostly...). With that said, I had no idea it was keeping track of literally every single action such as flashlight activation time as well as duration. Geez lol

 

[CZroe]

iOS 7, released in 2013, was the first iOS with a built-in flashlight function. It was likely tracking *APP* usage in 2012 to know that he was using the flashlight.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

If your phone can't help you hide bodies WTF good is it?

 

[andylawcc]

A Florida man

 

[dank69]

I don't normally care about my phone keeping track of what I do with it. I'm not paranoid and I don't feel like it's any kind of violation since I can choose what data to give it (mostly...). With that said, I had no idea it was keeping track of literally every single action such as flashlight activation time as well as duration. Geez lol

That's a side effect of every programmer being taught that if the data is available you might as well keep track of it.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

A Florida man

And that's just even more sad. A man in a state that's about 25% swampland filled with alligators and giant pythons can't figure out on his own how to hide a body? You can get rid of a body in Florida more easily than you can get rid of your deposit bottles in Connecticut.

 

[gevorg]

Perhaps even more damningly, the phone's location data also blows up Bravo's alibi, while other data indicates the flashlight was turned on 9 times and used for over 48 minutes on the night in question.

 

[blackdogdeek]

I think Siri works for the NSA.

I think you have it backwards.

</evil mechanical laugh>

 

[Red Storm]

You know those people who say they don't care about having their data collected because they have nothing to hide?

Apparently this guy didn't know those people.

 

[Sonikku]

What an idiot. Should have turned on private browsing on his firefox window.

 

[waggy]

I don't normally care about my phone keeping track of what I do with it. I'm not paranoid and I don't feel like it's any kind of violation since I can choose what data to give it (mostly...). With that said, I had no idea it was keeping track of literally every single action such as flashlight activation time as well as duration. Geez lol

the fact that people don't know that the phone tracks EVERYTHING now amazes me.

So when i hear of people taking and using a smartphone in such crimes i just shake my head.

leave the damn thing at home and use a cheap ass flashlight.

 

[unokitty]

http://gizmodo.com/yep-a-murder-suspect-actually-asked-siri-where-to-hide-1620724727

D: D: D:

Does this make Siri an accomplice?

Or, does this make Siri a snitch?

Uno

 

[DrPizza]

I bigger question: does a cell phone communicate that location data with someone? Or is it just stored locally.

 

[Anubis]

And that's just even more sad. A man in a state that's about 25% swampland filled with alligators and giant pythons can't figure out on his own how to hide a body? You can get rid of a body in Florida more easily than you can get rid of your deposit bottles in Connecticut.

My thoughts as well

 

[Jeff7]

If your phone can't help you hide bodies WTF good is it?

And people wonder why I don't have a smartphone.
- Tiny screen.
- Records everything you do with or to the phone.
- Rats you out to the feds.

the fact that people don't know that the phone tracks EVERYTHING now amazes me.

So when i hear of people taking and using a smartphone in such crimes i just shake my head.

leave the damn thing at home and use a cheap ass flashlight.

Leave the phone at home? But then they won't be able to use the phone's GPS to find any of the recommended body dumps.




(It'd be kind of funny if the guy gets to the #1 recommendation and finds 35 other bodies stacked there.)

I bigger question: does a cell phone communicate that location data with someone? Or is it just stored locally.

Advertisers are willing to pay quite a lot of money for direct access to user data.
Users are paying $0 to keep the data private.

When a behavior is incentivized...

 

[Kaido]

I don't normally care about my phone keeping track of what I do with it. I'm not paranoid and I don't feel like it's any kind of violation since I can choose what data to give it (mostly...). With that said, I had no idea it was keeping track of literally every single action such as flashlight activation time as well as duration.

That's what scares me about using Android devices (with all of the access items you have to accept when installing individual apps) & jailbraking iPhones...you have no idea what data is going where. Fooooooor example:

http://thehackernews.com/2014/08/xiaomi-phones-secretly-sending-users.html

 

[Kaido]

the fact that people don't know that the phone tracks EVERYTHING now amazes me.

So when i hear of people taking and using a smartphone in such crimes i just shake my head.

The fact that (1) they are criminals, and (2) they get caught pretty is pretty telling as to how smartly they are using their smartphones

Also #showerthoughts - "We'll never hear about the world's most truly perfect crime" :hmm:

 

[ultimatebob]

In other words, if you're gonna kill some one, leave the Smartphone at home.

Geez... Dexter would be totally screwed if that show was still on now. He was always making calls right after killing people

 

[Kaido]

And people wonder why I don't have a smartphone.
- Tiny screen.
- Records everything you do with or to the phone.
- Rats you out to the feds.

Wired just interviewed Snowden:

http://www.wired.com/2014/08/edward-snowden/

Snowden is careful about what’s known in the intelligence world as operational security. As we sit down, he removes the battery from his cell phone. I left my iPhone back at my hotel. Snowden’s handlers repeatedly warned me that, even switched off, a cell phone can easily be turned into an NSA microphone. Knowledge of the agency’s tricks is one of the ways that Snowden has managed to stay free.

But does it matter? Not when everyone else around you has a cell phone, or when there's stuff like this flying around: (absolutely worth the 5-minute watch)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxNyaXfJsA