alfa147x
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The phone shouldn't be as fragile as it is. Agreed.
Knowing that I bought a fragile phone I bought Apple Care.
The battery is removable. Take two screws out of the bottom and slide the back off
The phone shouldn't be as fragile as it is. Agreed.
Knowing that I bought a fragile phone I bought Apple Care.
The battery is removable. Take two screws out of the bottom and slide the back off
poofyhairguy
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zinfamous
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alfa147x
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Wow. This section of the forum has hit full retarded.
GOOD BUILD QUALITY DOES NOT MEAN IT'S NOT FRAGILE
That has to be one of the most retarded things I ever read. What's the point of judging build quality if you're gonna ignore that one is fragile and the other is not? To see how "smooth and polished" it feels while you pet it? Absolutely useless.
Red Storm
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Usually when using the phrase "Good build quality" about products that you actually use (be it a phone, car, laptop, kitchen appliance, etc.), durability is implied.
That being said, I'd say almost all smartphones can be considered fragile, but using a lot of glass to build a device that sees a lot of use and is apparently prone to dropping doesn't seem like a very smart decision (not that I ever dropped my iPhone, but I was doubly worried about it compared to my other phones).
zinfamous
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This isn't a vase we're talking about. it's a device meant for daily use. You have been sipping the koolaid too long.
It seems that you are more interested in design than you are the device.
QueBert
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Build quality's noticeable every second you use a phone. I use my EVO a lot, so I'm constantly reminded of how poorly it was put together. Is my phone fragile? No not really, but it's not built well either. The iPhone isn't fragile, it won't break by setting it down wrong, it won't break if it's lose in a pocket. It *might* break is dropped, just like my EVO *might* break if dropped. I use my phone for hours a day so the way it feels in my hand is pretty important. I have a neighbor with a BMW and one with a minivan. Across the board the mini van gets way higher crash safety ratings, and is overall just a lot more dependable. But the BMW is a better built car, you get less wind noise, a smoother ride, it's just better. The BMW is more fragile but I'd still say it's better built. The "smooth and polished" you bring up ties right into the user experience. It's not just about eye candy, for some it's not important, but there are people who do care about it. So useless to you is useless to everyone? And seeing how the majority of people don't ever drop their phone, I'd say not getting a phone that's more fragile when dropped because of that is kind of dumb.
People who drop their phones should get a $19.99 throw away Nokia from Walmart (no contract price)
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hey you can change the screen . i also faced same problem . i throw my iphone when i was angry and screen get cracked, same like your phone . i changed the screen in just $20 . 
So you're judging build quality simply on how it makes you feel, which is completely subject to personal preference and not backed up by any objective measure. How do you know the iphone is a high quality build, other than your personal non-objective feelings? Because it's shiny? How do you know the Evo is a poor build quality? Because it's made from plastic? I'm judging it on concrete (lol..) objective results. I've dropped my $500 Nokia's multiple times, and I know they're high quality build because they continue to operate with only minor scratches. If they shattered, I would call it shitty quality, and the same with any other phone.
QueBert
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No I know my EVO's poor quality because I can examine it up close and see how it's parts don't even fit together well. There are gaps and the rim around the camera isn't even flush. It might be tough, but it's not a phone that has good craftsmanship. This is the case for all but 1 Android phone. Durability has jack shit to do with craftsmanship. And seeing how, as I've said before in 15 years I've never dropped a cell phone once, even when I use them while I run every day. I don't care if it can withstand a fall that 99.9% won't happen. Just give me the best crafted phone please...
alfa147x
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Android fanboys / anti apple folks on this forum won't give up. They know they are wrong and won't admit it.
It's obvious that they are wrong but stubborn and ignorant people won't change. These people wouldn't know quality if it hit them in the face.
These are the same people yelling out that their Geo Metro is better built than a brand new audi, benz, bmw...
QueBert
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That's objective, what makes a Audi better than a Metro man? It is because it's shiny?
Then you're the minority. All the people buying cases on their shiny new phones probably don't buy em to cover up the sentimental microgaps that don't affect the phone's functionality at all. Plenty of people have dropped their phones and found out the hard way what garbage build quality means.
QueBert
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zinfamous
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depends on what you're talking about.
build quality is very much device and use-specific. If the object, for which build quality is being discussed, is a daily use object expected to suffer some sort of abuse for a couple of years, then it shouldn't be fragile.
I think the iPhone is fine--but it certainly no better in build quality than a durable phone, The fact that it can shatter with a little ding when other phones do not certainly causes its build quality into question.
The build quality of a Ming vase is far superior to that of an Ikea vase--it is meant to be a stationary display piece. Its fragility is not a factor. A BMW has superior build quality to minivan because it is much better at what cars are supposed to do, for the user--suspension, wind noise, all of those things, and is generally no less safe than your average minivan.
The iPhone does everything that a smartphone is supposed to do, just as any comparable high end Android device. it doesn't "feel like shit," obviously, until you drop it on the ground, like the average person is prone to do with a mobile phone. mobile phones are not designed and sold to be displayed in a glass case, in hopes of attracting fertile women--iPhones are meant to be displayed in public, in a bar or at a game, in hopes of attracting fertile women. accidents happen in these situations, and its clear lack of durability calls build quality in to question.
not really sure why some people can't figure this out.
lulz I tried to type something useful, but my brain just melted all over my desk.
finbarqs
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no need to fight -- just realize that we have 2 people here. People who want luxury, and people who want longevity. Sure the 2 can merge, but really, it's like getting a silk shirt. It stains easily, and rips easily, but it's more luxurious -- people want it.
Gold -- it's softer than iron but yet it's worth more (I know it's expensive because of the rarity of the metal, but I'm talking about the 'shiny-ness' of the metal)
I don't think we have anti-android people here, just more so anti-apple. I haven't seen any attacks on Android (except the comment about the EVO) more so than the attacks on Apple. In fact, I think the people who defended Apple was just merely mentioning the fact that we're talking about 2 different things here. Can the 2 categories merge? Sure. No problem. But it's usually "uber-expensive" Maybe a scratch proof lexan for the screen instead of glass? Or maybe a diamond screen instead?
Anyways, my theory is that manufacturers make these phones with a few objectives: make it durable and somewhat cool, or just make it "expensive" feeling, and shatter at first drop. The iphone, is without a doubt, trying to be a jewelry rather than a utility. Think of it as a jewelry with utility integrated. They really want you to handle it with care! True it's not a vase, but it's trying to be a vase disguised as a smartphone!
Gold -- it's softer than iron but yet it's worth more (I know it's expensive because of the rarity of the metal, but I'm talking about the 'shiny-ness' of the metal)
I don't think we have anti-android people here, just more so anti-apple. I haven't seen any attacks on Android (except the comment about the EVO) more so than the attacks on Apple. In fact, I think the people who defended Apple was just merely mentioning the fact that we're talking about 2 different things here. Can the 2 categories merge? Sure. No problem. But it's usually "uber-expensive" Maybe a scratch proof lexan for the screen instead of glass? Or maybe a diamond screen instead?
Anyways, my theory is that manufacturers make these phones with a few objectives: make it durable and somewhat cool, or just make it "expensive" feeling, and shatter at first drop. The iphone, is without a doubt, trying to be a jewelry rather than a utility. Think of it as a jewelry with utility integrated. They really want you to handle it with care! True it's not a vase, but it's trying to be a vase disguised as a smartphone!
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zinfamous
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and there are some people that think useless art decision trumping engineering & use decision = superior build quality.
thanks for playing.
(but yes, your phone looks nice, and I would really like to have sex with you.)
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