siphoned gas

rh71

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Was wondering what your input is on this... it's quite comical actually...

- Person A has multiple vehicles in their driveway since they restore cars
- Someone has been siphoning person A's gas for months
- Person A decides to put sugar in the tank of one of the vehicles that does not have an engine
- Someone's vehicle develops problems and person A finds out it's their neighbor (Ford Probe)
[Redemption is so sweet isn't it ?]
- Neighbor confronts person A and threatens to sue, presumably will claim they put sugar directly into his tank.

Basically it's a their-word-against-his deal right now... what can come of this ? Should person A go so far as to have the contents of both tanks tested to prove it's the same gas (thus siphoned) and get their neighbor in legal trouble too ?
 

DnetMHZ

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"Your honor I converted the gas tank of this old car to a sugar storage tank years ago!"
 

Garet Jax

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Originally posted by: rh71
Was wondering what your input is on this... it's quite comical actually...

- Person A has multiple vehicles in their driveway since they restore cars
- Someone has been siphoning person A's gas for months
- Person A decides to put sugar in the tank of one of the vehicles that does not have an engine
- Someone's engine soon gets destroyed and person A finds out it's their neighbor (Ford Probe)
[Redemption is so sweet isn't it ?]
- Neighbor confronts person A and threatens to sue, presumably will claim they put sugar directly into his tank.

Basically it's a their-word-against-his deal right now... what can come of this ? Should person A go so far as to have the contents of both tanks tested to prove it's the same gas (thus siphoned) and get their neighbor in legal trouble too ?

So are you person A or person B?
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Does Person B have a lock on their gas cap?
The thief ? I'm not sure.

Originally posted by: Garet Jax
So are you person A or person B?
Well I know practically nothing about old cars. And I told you the other was a Ford Probe. Now click on the "my ride" link below.
 

AnonymouseUser

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Originally posted by: rh71
Was wondering what your input is on this... it's quite comical actually...

- Person A has multiple vehicles in their driveway since they restore cars
- Someone has been siphoning person A's gas for months
- Person A decides to put sugar in the tank of one of the vehicles that does not have an engine
- Someone's engine soon gets destroyed and person A finds out it's their neighbor (Ford Probe)
[Redemption is so sweet isn't it ?]
- Neighbor confronts person A and threatens to sue, presumably will claim they put sugar directly into his tank.

Basically it's a their-word-against-his deal right now... what can come of this ? Should person A go so far as to have the contents of both tanks tested to prove it's the same gas (thus siphoned) and get their neighbor in legal trouble too ?

If they can't afford a few gallons of gas then I doubt they can afford a lawyer.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: rh71
Was wondering what your input is on this... it's quite comical actually...

- Person A has multiple vehicles in their driveway since they restore cars
- Someone has been siphoning person A's gas for months
- Person A decides to put sugar in the tank of one of the vehicles that does not have an engine
- Someone's engine soon gets destroyed and person A finds out it's their neighbor (Ford Probe)
[Redemption is so sweet isn't it ?]
- Neighbor confronts person A and threatens to sue, presumably will claim they put sugar directly into his tank.

Basically it's a their-word-against-his deal right now... what can come of this ? Should person A go so far as to have the contents of both tanks tested to prove it's the same gas (thus siphoned) and get their neighbor in legal trouble too ?

how does same gas prove it was siphoned? Couldn't tat mean they just got it from the same gas station?
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: rh71
Was wondering what your input is on this... it's quite comical actually...

- Person A has multiple vehicles in their driveway since they restore cars
- Someone has been siphoning person A's gas for months
- Person A decides to put sugar in the tank of one of the vehicles that does not have an engine
- Someone's engine soon gets destroyed and person A finds out it's their neighbor (Ford Probe)
[Redemption is so sweet isn't it ?]
- Neighbor confronts person A and threatens to sue, presumably will claim they put sugar directly into his tank.

Basically it's a their-word-against-his deal right now... what can come of this ? Should person A go so far as to have the contents of both tanks tested to prove it's the same gas (thus siphoned) and get their neighbor in legal trouble too ?

how does same gas prove it was siphoned? Couldn't tat mean they just got it from the same gas station?
with the same sugar ? From only a car that doesn't move ?
 

FreedomGUNDAM

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My question is what would the neighbor tell the court concerning how he got Person A gasoline. Think when he tells the court the he was siphoning gas from someone else, that would incriminate himself
 

Cogman

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they can threaten to sue all they want, but as soon as they take you to court what is their first evidence they will show? that you put sugar in your own gas tank? "Yes, that proves he put sugar into my tank because it is in the tanks that he owns!" They have no way of proving that this happened, if anything you would be quite free to counter-sue and then use the fact that you placed the sugar in the old gas tank as proof that they had been stealing gas. Either one won't get very far as the evidence is completely circumstantial, but Person B doesn't have a leg to stand on as there is no way to prove you put the sugar in is car as opposed to some random kid in the neighborhood (likewise there is really no way to prove that he was siphoning your gas as opposed to some random kid putting sugar into his tank.) So this will just end up with everyone being a few pennies poorer and their lawyers a few pennies richer :D

Good job with the payback though.
 

imported_Baloo

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Sugar is not going to hurt anybody's engine - that is a myth.

Edit: person B would never know there was sugar in the siphoned gas unless person A told person B, or person B happened to notice tiny granules in the bottom of the container he siphoned into, if any granules were actually to get siphoned out with the gas.
 

FoBoT

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i would have went with the "secret hidden video camera" over the "spiking my own gas tank" course of action

good luck
 

FoBoT

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i would have went with the "secret hidden video camera" over the "spiking my own gas tank" course of action

good luck
 

axelfox

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Well, in the process of proving his case, he would have to prove he was intending to steal gas
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Baloo
Sugar is not going to hurt anybody's engine - that is a myth.

Edit: person B would never know there was sugar in the siphoned gas unless person A told person B, or person B happened to notice tiny granules in the bottom of the container he siphoned into, if any granules were actually to get siphoned out with the gas.

Well the neighbor wouldn't openly admit to siphoning the gas in the first place so the only way that person A found out it's him is because the car has *some* problems now. Something to that affect had to have happened.

Edited OP.
 

imported_Baloo

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Baloo
Sugar is not going to hurt anybody's engine - that is a myth.

Edit: person B would never know there was sugar in the siphoned gas unless person A told person B, or person B happened to notice tiny granules in the bottom of the container he siphoned into, if any granules were actually to get siphoned out with the gas.

Well the neighbor wouldn't openly admit to siphoning the gas in the first place so the only way that person A found out it's him is because the car has *some* problems now. Something to that affect had to have happened.

Edited OP.

The question was posed hypothetically, so there's no "person A found out" anything. But as I said, person B would never know there was sugar in the siphoned gas unless person A told person B, or person B happened to notice tiny granules in the bottom of the container he siphoned into, if any granules were actually to get siphoned out with the gas.
 

silverpig

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Has anyone here ever had sugar in their gas tank? It definitely does mess up your engine and I can attest to that personally. My mom's car got sugared, and several years later my car did as well. While it won't destroy your engine, it definitely gunks stuff up to the tune where my car was written off as a total loss.
 

FoBoT

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so you didn't have a fuel filter?

sugar doesn't dissolve in gasoline
how did it get past the fuel filter?