Single versus Dual Stage Automotive Paint

eldorado99

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I'm getting my car painted soon and all the bodywork is finished. The paint shop I'm taking my car to recommended a single stage paint because he knows I'm not looking for a showroom finish nor do I want to spend a ton of money. I do however want the car to look decent (It's being painted black) and if it's worth the extra then I'm willing to spend it. He quoted me $1800.00 CAD, paying cash so no tax, for the paint (Single stage) and prep work. Bodywork is done, he just needs to sand and fix any minor blemishes.

Is it worth the extra money to go to dual stage paint? Will it look nicer and/or last longer? Does anyone have any comparison pics of something painted with single stage versus dual stage?
 

PAB

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As long as he shoots it right and does a decent job with the clearcoat, I don't forsee a problem.
 

eldorado99

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Originally posted by: PAB
As long as he shoots it right and does a decent job with the clearcoat, I don't forsee a problem.

Yeah I agree, but I want to know if it's worth getting a clearcoat...
 

overst33r

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My friends 1993 BMW 325is has single stage paint, it still looks great.
 

eldorado99

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Originally posted by: Scouzer
Dude...just admit it, your price is from Maaco.

Enjoy.

Yeah, It's not. Maaco quoted me $915.00 but I didn't like how they "justified" certain things, and they kept phoning me saying they'd have to jack up the price, so I went down their instantly and got it back before they did anything.
 

jupiter57

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Originally posted by: eldorado99
Originally posted by: Colt45
Get a couple gallons of tremclad flat black, and a roller :p

My friends grandma did that. Senility FTL. :(

About 20 years ago, I got my hands on an old Firebird in need of restoration. It had been bondo'd, parts replaced, and had several different colors of finish and primer on it.
I had a couple of beers one night and decided I would take some white Kem-Kromik metal primer and a small roller and at least make it all one color.
Dang that thing was sharp, though flat. (Never got around to finishing it though, got an offer for it I "couldn't refuse")!!
 

fbrdphreak

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Sounds like you're getting a "deal" or "under the table." Whatever you do, get everything in writing. Paint jobs are something that can be easily fvcked up by someone who is incompetent or doesn't give a sh!t, leaving you out on a limb. If this is legit and on the books, go for it.
 

HESDog

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Can you find out what paint system he plans to use? All of the major brands offer some very low end (cheap) paints - both single and two stage. The cheap paints are fine if you are going for a quickie paint job and then sell the car, but if you plan to keep the car then you will want a better quality product.

I am using some of the higher end PPG products (basecoat/clearcoat) on my current project, a '67 Ford Mustang fastback. I am doing all of the work myself and will have almost $2000 in the paint job which includes all of the primers, reducers, catalysts, basecoat and clearcoat.

Just remember, when it comes to paint jobs you get what you pay for...
 

eldorado99

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Hmm, I'll find out what he wants to use on my car. I thought $1800 seemed a bit steep seeing as how it's just paint, but this guy did my bodywork before as well, and he seems to run a good shop. He told me exactly what he was going to do, came in $100 under-budget, did more work than I thought he would (I didn't know about some minor damage on the car but he fixed it anyway). After that he had to close for the holidays so I had to take my car home. I paid in cash so I didn't have to pay tax, but he still gave me a receipt so it was "on the record" anyway.

My expectation is that for $1800 he will again give me more than I expected, I hope anyway.