Since the Brexit vote, the number of Brits becoming German citizens is soaring

[Indus]

https://qz.com/1286099/british-appl...itizenship-have-soared-since-the-brexit-vote/

As the UK’s divorce from the European Union creeps closer, some Brits are cementing their ties to the bloc. Germany has been a preferred sanctuary, with a 162% jump in UK citizens acquiring citizenship in Deutschland last year.





So how do you explain this? I thought brexit was because EU is bad?

 

[fskimospy]

https://qz.com/1286099/british-appl...itizenship-have-soared-since-the-brexit-vote/

As the UK’s divorce from the European Union creeps closer, some Brits are cementing their ties to the bloc. Germany has been a preferred sanctuary, with a 162% jump in UK citizens acquiring citizenship in Deutschland last year.

So how do you explain this? I thought brexit was because EU is bad?

Brexit has to be one of the dumbest decisions a western country has made in the postwar era (minus electing Trump). The UK had the best of both worlds, access to the EU markets without the anchor of the Euro around their neck. They threw it away because a bunch of morons decided they didn't like immigrants.

Hmm, sounds familiar.

 

[interchange]

If the US were smaller and bordered by first world nations with open travel like Europe is, I think we'd be seeing the same phenomenon at a much higher rate.

In case you were wondering whether I was forgetting about Canada or just insulting them, well, this footnote demonstrates I'm not forgetting...

 

[Moonbeam]

Brexit has to be one of the dumbest decisions a western country has made in the postwar era (minus electing Trump). The UK had the best of both worlds, access to the EU markets without the anchor of the Euro around their neck. They threw it away because a bunch of morons decided they didn't like immigrants.

Hmm, sounds familiar.

I don't think they just up and decided that; I think the Russians reminded them how people who hate themselves feel when they dwell on somebody else getting something they believe they deserve. While it is true that we are what we eat, it is equally true we are what we're fed.

 

[vi edit]

If the US were smaller and bordered by first world nations with open travel like Europe is, I think we'd be seeing the same phenomenon at a much higher rate.

In case you were wondering whether I was forgetting about Canada or just insulting them, well, this footnote demonstrates I'm not forgetting...

I think so too. You'd have a country like France setting up fast track lanes to poach STEM employees and intellectuals.

 

[MrSquished]

If the US were smaller and bordered by first world nations with open travel like Europe is, I think we'd be seeing the same phenomenon at a much higher rate.

In case you were wondering whether I was forgetting about Canada or just insulting them, well, this footnote demonstrates I'm not forgetting...

I'd be part of that phenomenon.

 

[dank69]

If the US were smaller and bordered by first world nations with open travel like Europe is, I think we'd be seeing the same phenomenon at a much higher rate.

In case you were wondering whether I was forgetting about Canada or just insulting them, well, this footnote demonstrates I'm not forgetting...

Canada knows they are essentially a block of ice, no need for the disclaimer.

 

[interchange]

Canada knows they are essentially a block of ice, no need for the disclaimer.

Disclaimer? I was intending punchline but OK.

 

[dank69]

Disclaimer? I was intending punchline but OK.

That makes two of us.

 

[Veliko]

Brexit has to be one of the dumbest decisions a western country has made in the postwar era (minus electing Trump). The UK had the best of both worlds, access to the EU markets without the anchor of the Euro around their neck. They threw it away because a bunch of morons decided they didn't like immigrants.

Hmm, sounds familiar.

Speaking as a Brit, I'd say that Brexit is worse than Trump by a huge magnitude.

Presidential elections are a regular thing and voters have a fairly good idea what any particular president is likely to do during their term. You can even boot him out on Day 2 if you wanted to.

Brexit is an immensely complicated change that will affect every single person in the country, and will do so for decades to come. Broadly speaking it's a permanent thing that can't be undone and there is no excuse for not doing any research prior to the vote.

One of the 'funny' things about the immigration point:

"There's too many brown faces in the supermarket, that's why I voted to leave the EU."

There are no 'brown' countries in the EU.

 

[mikeymikec]

One of the other funny things about Brexit and the immigration argument was that even the Leave campaign conflated illegal immigration with legal immigration. It takes a complete dipshit not to realise that illegal immigration is not going to change because we've left the EU.

A small part of me still hopes that the government is going to realise sooner rather than later that it's going to fuck its prospects of getting elected by today's not-elderly generations and pull a 180.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm wondering if the plan is to just drag out these negotiations with the EU and come to terms, revise, schedule further discussions months later, make some promises, delay discussions, on and on for a couple of years until the UK just simply "forgets" to Brexit and it's been so long that no one really notices.



Kinda like how HR forgot to fire Milton several years ago and instead of firing him for real, they just stopped paying him, hoping he won't notice.

 

[Veliko]

I'm wondering if the plan is to just drag out these negotiations with the EU and come to terms, revise, schedule further discussions months later, make some promises, delay discussions, on and on for a couple of years until the UK just simply "forgets" to Brexit and it's been so long that no one really notices.

I'm kind of hopeful that this is what's going on.

Unfortunately Brexit has already cost us billions of pounds, and is taking up so much time that a lot of regular important stuff is being ignored.

 

[fskimospy]

 

[zinfamous]

^luuuulz

 

[UglyCasanova]

I thought brexit was because EU is bad?

I think it had more to do with national sovereignty than them being "bad".

 

[Greenman]

https://qz.com/1286099/british-appl...itizenship-have-soared-since-the-brexit-vote/

As the UK’s divorce from the European Union creeps closer, some Brits are cementing their ties to the bloc. Germany has been a preferred sanctuary, with a 162% jump in UK citizens acquiring citizenship in Deutschland last year.





So how do you explain this? I thought brexit was because EU is bad?

There really isn't anything to explain. The people of the UK voted to leave the EU. Being a democracy, they get to do that. I don't know if it was good move or a poor one, but it's the one at least half the voters wanted.

 

[sdifox]

Speaking as a Brit, I'd say that Brexit is worse than Trump by a huge magnitude.

Presidential elections are a regular thing and voters have a fairly good idea what any particular president is likely to do during their term. You can even boot him out on Day 2 if you wanted to.

Brexit is an immensely complicated change that will affect every single person in the country, and will do so for decades to come. Broadly speaking it's a permanent thing that can't be undone and there is no excuse for not doing any research prior to the vote.

One of the 'funny' things about the immigration point:

"There's too many brown faces in the supermarket, that's why I voted to leave the EU."

There are no 'brown' countries in the EU.

Spanish, Italians, Portuguese.

:awe:

 

[MrSquished]

I disappoint because I have EU citizenship and was planning to move to Europe in approx 4.5 years, and it was between England, France, Germany and the Netherlands for now. Now England is out. Sad. Stupid stupid Brits.

 

[Chaotic42]

Did Scotland ever decide if they were going to use this as an excuse to try for independence yet?

 

[theeedude]

Good to see smart people voting with their feet. That's what globalism should be all about, competition for human capital.

 

[cytg111]

I kind of want them to stay and fight the fight, but yea we got an influx of Englishmen too .

 

[mikeymikec]

I'm wondering if the plan is to just drag out these negotiations with the EU and come to terms, revise, schedule further discussions months later, make some promises, delay discussions, on and on for a couple of years until the UK just simply "forgets" to Brexit and it's been so long that no one really notices.

Unfortunately the hard-line Brexit fanatics in the conservative party have been opposing even interim measures to make things easier for businesses until an agreement is actually reached.

Meanwhile, the Home Office has been acting like said fanatics by denying citizenship requests to people applying for them despite one example living here for something like 20 years and was the Mayor of Ipswitch for a while.

Also, Theresa May is seemingly acting like she can be everyone's friend by trying to appease anyone in her party who stamps their feet loudly enough. The situation is completely absurd.

Theresa May's ambition to be PM at this time is the most puzzling aspect of all. My only explanation is that many politicians desire power so much that it doesn't matter to them what they would need to preside over, just that they get the chance to. TM was a remain supporter btw, and achieved power after the referendum result.

 

[cytg111]

Solution is pretty simple. We create EU2.0, let members choose to upgrade or not and give GB an invite as well. We could all use an EU2.0, let it be a chance to fix some things.

 

[pmv]

I don't want Brexit, but I don't know that this particular statistic is very significant. Doesn't seem surprising that those with German spouses or other family or who work in Germany would conclude that if we are out of the EU they better get German citizenship. Previously they wouldn't have needed
it. Presumably many or most will also continue being UK citizens.

And it's a large proportional rise in a fairly small number, in general I hate stories that emphasize some percentage increase without mentioning they are talking about a small number to start with.

[Hmmm, I wonder if Nigel Farage will do the same? Is he still married to a German?]

Also the EU does seem to have other things to worry about than just Britain. Angry people who aren't quite sure what they want - but know that they are angry about it - seem to be on the rise everywhere.