So I should multiply 6 million fold because I'm carbon based?
It's actually nice to see how foolish most of your posts are-you'll fade easily.
Rogo *S*
So I should multiply 6 million fold because I'm carbon based?
It's actually nice to see how foolish most of your posts are-you'll fade easily.
Rogo *S*
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
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Originally posted by: MrPickins
The sky is not falling, the USA has plenty of surplus food production capacity, new (huge) sources of oil are becoming profitable to extract.
Where do you think the carbon you are made of came from?
Try googling the carbon cycle.
So, in 100 million years some future version of man may be burning you in his future car? Maybe we'll have come full cycle by then and start a whole new industrial revolution all over again...man, that would make an interesting sci-fi novel.
JM
It's ulimately a moral device. Our country has burned the most precious resource on this planet-and for what? I don't see many people that contribute to the technological progress or sustainablility of this earth. I see people driving their SUVS, TRUCKS, and lawn tractors every day.
We're properly fvvcked, and we've done it ourselves.
I like guns and coffee.
Rogo
This is a quote from SaudiAramco's energy projection staff. They promised 12.5mbpd but in 2006 they maxed their output at 11.2mgpd.
Ask me.
Rogo
Million barrels per day?
Forget about petroleum -- the words of the century right now are nanotechnology, high-temp superconductors and nuclear power.
Nuclear power is the answer to baseload power problems all over the world -- it's a jack-of-all-trades which truly is a master, as well. It's clean, cheap and safe if it's done right -- which it isn't right now, except for in France. The politics surrounding nuclear fuel here in North America is absolute bullshit -- unlike in France, we can't breed our waste; we can't turn our spent fuel back into usable fuel because the resulting plutonium is better than uranium for making bombs. If you want a more detailed explanation, pm me. The best part about nuclear power is you can produce a hell of a lot of it with only a few reactors. Also, only about a third of the energy from a reactor is converted to electricity. In the Albertan Oil sands, they're thinking of using all the excess steam from nuke reactors to power the oil-extraction process -- the idiots are using fossil-fuelled boilers right now.
Carrying on, the second technology that is starting to make its commercial debut is high-temperature superconductor technology. Basically, it allows you to transmit power over longer distances with much less loss than conventional conductors. Only things are you need a liquid-nitro cooling process and its expensive. Bottom line, this'll transmit the power produced by the aforementioned nuke plants much more efficiently.
Finally, with the advent of nanotech it is now possible to create capacitors with many orders of magnitude greater surface area, resulting in substantial energy storage improvements. Imagine an electric car with ten times the range and the ability to recharge it as fast as you can (safely) supply it with power.
Of course, politics always seems to want to ****** things up.
-ben
FM
The primary problem is that hydrocarbon dependency is so deeply worked into the worlds energy consumtion that no matter how much alternative energy sources are there is no way to supply the demand.
I'd really like to believe in the ether.
Rogo
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
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Politics seems to fsck up more progress in this country than it solves problems. I swear, it's amazing we get anything done.
Ad Hominem lad? Great falacious arguement! Are you 13 Bobbapett?
Ironit-
Funny man-
So you like to laugh at logical posts?Rogo
Mell-you're a lemming too? EKKC is a known wanker on the forums-you enjoy laughing with wankers?
Godspeed in the world of HC energy and bread that you don't like to eat and costs as much as your house payment
Rogo
Every time you post on this forum you are enlarging your own carbon footprint. Please stop posting and turn off your computer.
Also, please stop breathing as that produces carbon dioxide as well.
Raduque
Lifer
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:thumbsup:
He doesn't wish them ill will, he just doesn't care and won't go out of his way to help them at an expense to himself or his family.
Hay, Rogo I put $52(us) in gas in my truck yesterday, and I still run the AC when it's only 80f outside.
It'll only get worse before it gets better. The only (short term?) solution is more drilling. Somebody needs to grow some balls and poke more holes in Alaska.
exdeath
Lifer
- Jan 29, 2004
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I'll probably be selling this house and moving to an area that happens to be a few blocks from the University and about 15 minutes away from work. More for the real estate than for gas prices though (I'd have another 100k in my pocket) I'd drive my supercharged V8 MORE often, not less, just because of the lower mileage and wear and tear, less danger of flying rocks on the freeway, etc.
I'd be happy to be within biking/walking distance of school mainly because I don't have to worry about security for my car or crowded parking, I could care less about the gas
It would take 10 minutes to walk rather than driving for 5 minutes and cruising around the parking garage for 15 minutes waiting for a spot to open...And I do need to get off my ass, so I am looking forward too the daily walking.
I already take the stairs everywhere I go and I walk from building to building at work instead of driving the 1/10 of a mile like some people do, just because I don't like being a lazy ass. I fly up three flights of stairs in seconds, hitting every third step along the way, while I see people huffing and puffing or waiting in line for elevators.
I try to go without AC in the car are little more than normal these days not for gas savings, but the contemplation of doing without it at all, for recovering power losses, weight savings, performance, etc. And the inside of a car tends to get stale when you have the windows up all the time. I don't even listen to the radio, I like the sound of the wind, the engine, and the road when I am driving. That and I'm tired of pampering myself and being a pus*y because its 85 outside in Arizona.
And I turn my computer off at work every night, and the two 19" LCDs off, not on standby, I unplug AC adapters in my house like my phone charger and game consoles and shaver when they are not being used, etc.
Just because I own and drive a high performance supercharged V8 doesn't mean I'm wasteful and not conscious of energy consumption. A high performance car only consumes energy while I drive and I get enjoyment out of it, unlike a computer left on 24/7 that nobody is actually using.
exdeath
Lifer
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People are so short sighted on the high gas price problem. It's amazing that driving less or buying a gutless green car or reverting to the energy free stone age, are the only obvious solutions that I see keep coming up. I smell hidden agenda.
I'll propose the other types of lifestyle changes you can make to compensate for rising gas prices, namely, make OTHER concessions.
For example, you can still drive your 10 mpg SUV when gas is $8 a gallon, if you chose to. Even if you don't have a lot of money or think you can't afford it. How?
-Just pay the damn thing off and hey look, you have $125 a week more than you can spend on gas, and other things.
-Buy that gas guzzler in cash. The interest alone that you save, would buy you gas for 4 years at $8/gal. You went without it for 5-10 years already right? Is driving your beater for 3 more years really going to hurt? If you got a new job and can afford to go out and finance a new car right away, just pretend to make what your payment would be and save, and you could buy it outright in 3 years and have zero payments, instead of financing for 5 years and not be able to afford gas for it.
-stop eating out as much, hey look, spare gas money without having to drastically change your driving habits or vehicle preferences
-what is more important to you, cable TV or cruising around town in a burbling V8? choices choices choices.
There are limitless ways to stay ahead of the game of rising gas prices while everyone else is trading in their 400 HP cars for 65 HP ones.
Heres the rub: The people proposing that we 'change our lifestyles' to accommodate gas prices would show their true colors responding to this post. Right now they want gas to be $6 a gallon to force people to change their lifestyles so you can 'use less energy' and stop buying gas. That implies trading the SUV in for a hybrid, the ONLY solution they want.
But what if the concessions you make in face of rising gas prices come from elsewhere, as the above examples? Instead of driving less or getting a weaker car, you just cancel your cable TV bill so you can afford the increased price? So that you can still afford that SUV when gas is $6 a gallon? I bet they would get pissed off and say that gas $6 a gallon obviously must not be enough, it should be $12 a gallon, so on and so forth.
Because they aren't trying to do you a favor by suggesting ways to use less gas as the only solution to saving money. Their only concern is being green and getting rid of SUVs :laugh:
Of course I am referring to the OP here, what does "Since all of you are are producing 3+tons of carbondioxide." have to do with gas prices?
I'll propose the other types of lifestyle changes you can make to compensate for rising gas prices, namely, make OTHER concessions.
For example, you can still drive your 10 mpg SUV when gas is $8 a gallon, if you chose to. Even if you don't have a lot of money or think you can't afford it. How?
-Just pay the damn thing off and hey look, you have $125 a week more than you can spend on gas, and other things.
-Buy that gas guzzler in cash. The interest alone that you save, would buy you gas for 4 years at $8/gal. You went without it for 5-10 years already right? Is driving your beater for 3 more years really going to hurt? If you got a new job and can afford to go out and finance a new car right away, just pretend to make what your payment would be and save, and you could buy it outright in 3 years and have zero payments, instead of financing for 5 years and not be able to afford gas for it.
-stop eating out as much, hey look, spare gas money without having to drastically change your driving habits or vehicle preferences
-what is more important to you, cable TV or cruising around town in a burbling V8? choices choices choices.
There are limitless ways to stay ahead of the game of rising gas prices while everyone else is trading in their 400 HP cars for 65 HP ones.
Heres the rub: The people proposing that we 'change our lifestyles' to accommodate gas prices would show their true colors responding to this post. Right now they want gas to be $6 a gallon to force people to change their lifestyles so you can 'use less energy' and stop buying gas. That implies trading the SUV in for a hybrid, the ONLY solution they want.
But what if the concessions you make in face of rising gas prices come from elsewhere, as the above examples? Instead of driving less or getting a weaker car, you just cancel your cable TV bill so you can afford the increased price? So that you can still afford that SUV when gas is $6 a gallon? I bet they would get pissed off and say that gas $6 a gallon obviously must not be enough, it should be $12 a gallon, so on and so forth.
Because they aren't trying to do you a favor by suggesting ways to use less gas as the only solution to saving money. Their only concern is being green and getting rid of SUVs :laugh:
Of course I am referring to the OP here, what does "Since all of you are are producing 3+tons of carbondioxide." have to do with gas prices?
Those individual's producing low amounts of carbon dioxide do so by not driving often (if at all), not flying, and generally conserving energy when and whereever they can.
From what I've seen posted, in this thread, the majority of you grasp that oil is a finite resource, but you're either unwilling or unable to curtail your usage. Some of you are outright foolish and buy 4x4 trucks, SUVs and massive homes-and then brag about it. I do wish that we could cut our dependency on oil but the American public (as demonstrated by most of the posters in this thread) has their head's so far up their butts that they believe we can just 'poke more holes in the Alaskan tundra' LOL!
Rogo
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