Sin City backup with DVD Shrink...help

DVad3r

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Hey guys, I'm tying to make a backup of my Sin City DVD with DVD Shrink but there is no way I can fit the whole DVD onto a disc. I tried burning it with none of the extras etc but with no luck :( What's the proper way to do this? I also don't care much for the french audio, the main thing I want is the menu's and movie with both 5.1 and 5.1 DTS sound. Thanks.
 

Yreka

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Kill the extra language soundtrack, french I think it was ? That worked for me, and it was the only thing I had deselected.
 

BlueWeasel

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One thing I've done before in this situation, is do multiple "shrinks" by using customized media (under options) and setting the size higher than a standard 4.36GB DVD.

Example: Assume the movie (no extras) is really long and just the movie takes up 7400MB. In order to fit on a single disc, it would have to be compressed around 60% or less, and I don't want it.

I'll set the custom size to 6000MB, which results in ~80% compression. I'll go ahead and back it up, and then use DVD Shrink to open the first backup. Set the size back to DVD5 under options and do another backup...the second time around the compression should be another 80% or so.

Granted, the quality will probably suffer so using this method simply because of the high amount of compression being used. But, I've been satisified the few times I've done this, and I can live with it since it's just a backup copy.

 

Slick5150

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Hey guys, I'm tying to make a backup of my Sin City DVD with DVD Shrink but there is no way I can fit the whole DVD onto a disc. I tried burning it with none of the extras etc but with no luck :( What's the proper way to do this? I also don't care much for the french audio, the main thing I want is the menu's and movie with both 5.1 and 5.1 DTS sound. Thanks.

Why would you need both 5.1 DD AND DTS? Just pick 1. A DTS stream takes up a lot of space, so the quality of the video will suffer quite a bit if you're cramming all of that onto a 4.7gb disc.

 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
One thing I've done before in this situation, is do multiple "shrinks" by using customized media (under options) and setting the size higher than a standard 4.36GB DVD.

Example: Assume the movie (no extras) is really long and just the movie takes up 7400MB. In order to fit on a single disc, it would have to be compressed around 60% or less, and I don't want it.

I'll set the custom size to 6000MB, which results in ~80% compression. I'll go ahead and back it up, and then use DVD Shrink to open the first backup. Set the size back to DVD5 under options and do another backup...the second time around the compression should be another 80% or so.

Granted, the quality will probably suffer so using this method simply because of the high amount of compression being used. But, I've been satisified the few times I've done this, and I can live with it since it's just a backup copy.
Wait so you're compressing an already compressed file?... quailty must be stellar.

 

crizzar

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click on "re-author"

dvd-shrink will put anything on one disc, just a matter of how much it's compressed
 

torpid

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If you are really making a backup then you might consider using programs that can split the movie across multiple dvds instead of shrinking it onto one. Shrinking a movie whose best feature is picture quality just seems wrong to me.
 

BlueWeasel

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
One thing I've done before in this situation, is do multiple "shrinks" by using customized media (under options) and setting the size higher than a standard 4.36GB DVD.

Example: Assume the movie (no extras) is really long and just the movie takes up 7400MB. In order to fit on a single disc, it would have to be compressed around 60% or less, and I don't want it.

I'll set the custom size to 6000MB, which results in ~80% compression. I'll go ahead and back it up, and then use DVD Shrink to open the first backup. Set the size back to DVD5 under options and do another backup...the second time around the compression should be another 80% or so.

Granted, the quality will probably suffer so using this method simply because of the high amount of compression being used. But, I've been satisified the few times I've done this, and I can live with it since it's just a backup copy.
Wait so you're compressing an already compressed file?... quailty must be stellar.

:laugh:

Like I said, I try to avoid doing this whenever at all possible and have only done a couple times. I'm certainly not extremely picky about the quality backup copies that rarely get used anyway and they look fine to be.

Granted, I really don't have any "top of the line" video equipment to test them on, either. :(
 

n7

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d00d, you can't have 5.1 & DTS w/o butchering quality. Pick one

Also, if compression is high, look for DVD-Rebuilder + CCE.

That program combined with CCE will give far higher, & i mean, far higher quality when compressed.
 

Davegod

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1. decrypt DVD to hard drive
2. open files with dvd shrink
3. click the "analysis" button to perform a deep analysis (takes awhile but better quality, always use it when compressing heavily or where there's lots of black in the movie, or basically whenever you have the time)
4. click re-author button
5. in DVD browser (right side window) drag only the "main movie" to the left window
6. go to "compression settings" tab on right window:
- select only AC3 5.1-ch english (or whatever single audio you'd prefer, i prefer this for good quality and compatibility, without insane filesize. if youy want AC3 5.1 and DTS, get a dual layer DVD - or just buy the original?)
- can uncheck subpicture, but its usually like 2mb so...
- on the left hand side window, there's an icon which looks like two arrows pointing different directions, click it to set the start and end frames: the credits can actually take up quite a chunk of the filesize

If you want to keep the menu's and extras etc, backup the full disk but navigate through each item and for anything you're not interested in much, either manually set compression level low or replace with a still image. You can actually shrink away unwanted stuff to very low filesize but still keep menu functionality. Alternately there's other apps for making menu's but never tried - never felt the need.

For really heavy compression have a look for DivX or XviD, though DVDplayer compatibility goes out of the window.
 

DVad3r

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Thanks for all the replies guys...I guess I will just stick with regular 5.1 audio and leave the DTS. I've wasted like 5 discs already playing around.
 

Xyclone

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Originally posted by: Yreka
Kill the extra language soundtrack, french I think it was ? That worked for me, and it was the only thing I had deselected.

:thumbsup:
 

Nocturnal

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I just normally back up the movie itself and remove any extras as well as any non-english sound tracks.