Simulated vote on Intelligent Design in public school curriculums

6000SUX

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It's very simple. If there were a national referendum to decide this issue (I know it won't happen), would you vote for or against the inclusion of this quasi-scientific theory in public school curriculums? I would argue that we cannot afford to let sham science be taught in our classrooms if we want to stay competitive with other nations, but I am mostly interested in the percentage of people who would vote either way.
 

DainBramaged

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Good grief...not hard to tell which side YOU fall on, now is it? :roll: Pack your sh!t up and go down to P&N, you stupid fvcking troll.
 

ElFenix

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not in a science class. maybe you could include it in a world religions class.
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Good grief...not hard to tell which side YOU fall on, now is it? :roll: Pack your sh!t up and go down to P&N, you stupid fvcking troll.

Who's stupid, or a troll? Sham science is sham science. Nothing I said is a troll. I'm seriously interested to know the percentage of people that would vote either way, although I realize the distribution here will not be exactly in line with that of America.
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: Dumac
Biased poll anyone?

Still, I would vote nay.

It's not a biased poll, just an honest post. There's absolutely zero danger that my views will change those of someone who really believes that intelligent design should be taught in public schools.
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
not in a science class. maybe you could include it in a world religions class.

That's a very good answer. It is obviously important enough to be taught in a class on religion.
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Good grief...not hard to tell which side YOU fall on, now is it? :roll: Pack your sh!t up and go down to P&N, you stupid fvcking troll.

Who's stupid, or a troll? Sham science is sham science. Nothing I said is a troll. I'm seriously interested to know the percentage of people that would vote either way, although I realize the distribution here will not be exactly in line with that of America.

Coming in here and calling something than some consider to be legitimate "sham science" shows that you are NOT seriously interested. You just want to stir up dissension and strife. Maybe I think that evolution is sham science. So, sham science is sham science. Get that sh!t out of our science classes and put it in world religions. Jesus.
 

irishScott

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The argument is... It's complex, therefore some higher being designed us.

There is no concrete proof.

Like religion.

Who will argue this point with me? *Draws Metaphoric Pirate Dueling Sword*
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Good grief...not hard to tell which side YOU fall on, now is it? :roll: Pack your sh!t up and go down to P&N, you stupid fvcking troll.

Who's stupid, or a troll? Sham science is sham science. Nothing I said is a troll. I'm seriously interested to know the percentage of people that would vote either way, although I realize the distribution here will not be exactly in line with that of America.

Coming in here and calling something than some consider to be legitimate "sham science" shows that you are NOT seriously interested. You just want to stir up dissension and strife. Maybe I think that evolution is sham science. So, sham science is sham science. Get that sh!t out of our science classes and put it in world religions. Jesus.

Sham science is fairly easy to separate out from true science. Among other things, the consensus of the scientific community defines the boundary... and luckily, trolls like you on the Internet do not.
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Good grief...not hard to tell which side YOU fall on, now is it? :roll: Pack your sh!t up and go down to P&N, you stupid fvcking troll.

Who's stupid, or a troll? Sham science is sham science. Nothing I said is a troll. I'm seriously interested to know the percentage of people that would vote either way, although I realize the distribution here will not be exactly in line with that of America.

Coming in here and calling something than some consider to be legitimate "sham science" shows that you are NOT seriously interested. You just want to stir up dissension and strife. Maybe I think that evolution is sham science. So, sham science is sham science. Get that sh!t out of our science classes and put it in world religions. Jesus.

Sham science is fairly easy to separate out from true science. Among other things, the consensus of the scientific community defines the boundary... and luckily, trolls like you on the Internet do not.

Dude, I NEVER even said which side of the issue I was on...all I ever said was that you are a stupid fvcking troll, which is true, and that you have a very biased way of presenting your information, which is also true. Fvck off and go to P&N where they actually like your kind.

Edit: at least your poll edits made it somewhat less biased...it's still P&N though.
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Good grief...not hard to tell which side YOU fall on, now is it? :roll: Pack your sh!t up and go down to P&N, you stupid fvcking troll.

Who's stupid, or a troll? Sham science is sham science. Nothing I said is a troll. I'm seriously interested to know the percentage of people that would vote either way, although I realize the distribution here will not be exactly in line with that of America.

Coming in here and calling something than some consider to be legitimate "sham science" shows that you are NOT seriously interested. You just want to stir up dissension and strife. Maybe I think that evolution is sham science. So, sham science is sham science. Get that sh!t out of our science classes and put it in world religions. Jesus.

Sham science is fairly easy to separate out from true science. Among other things, the consensus of the scientific community defines the boundary... and luckily, trolls like you on the Internet do not.

Dude, I NEVER even said which side of the issue I was on...all I ever said was that you are a stupid fvcking troll, which is true, and that you have a very biased way of presenting your information, which is also true. Fvck off and go to P&N where they actually like your kind.

Edit: at least your poll edits made it somewhat less biased...it's still P&N though.

Along with your lack of common courtesy, you appear to misunderstand simple concepts such as bias. You also can't understand my reply, I guess-- your stupid hypothetical about the relativism of belief has nothing to do with this topic. The definition of sham science is not based on your individual views, no matter what they are.

So far, we have 2 votes out of 18 for including sham science in the science classroom. To me that's still kind of scary, but somewhat reassuring. I think that someday all states will require only true science to be taught in the classroom, and I was merely wondering how close we are to the borderline right now.
 

GroundZero

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Intelligent design is a scam to try and push a religious view on others. Keep that crap out of the schools!
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Good grief...not hard to tell which side YOU fall on, now is it? :roll: Pack your sh!t up and go down to P&N, you stupid fvcking troll.

Who's stupid, or a troll? Sham science is sham science. Nothing I said is a troll. I'm seriously interested to know the percentage of people that would vote either way, although I realize the distribution here will not be exactly in line with that of America.

Coming in here and calling something than some consider to be legitimate "sham science" shows that you are NOT seriously interested. You just want to stir up dissension and strife. Maybe I think that evolution is sham science. So, sham science is sham science. Get that sh!t out of our science classes and put it in world religions. Jesus.

Sham science is fairly easy to separate out from true science. Among other things, the consensus of the scientific community defines the boundary... and luckily, trolls like you on the Internet do not.

Dude, I NEVER even said which side of the issue I was on...all I ever said was that you are a stupid fvcking troll, which is true, and that you have a very biased way of presenting your information, which is also true. Fvck off and go to P&N where they actually like your kind.

Edit: at least your poll edits made it somewhat less biased...it's still P&N though.

Along with your lack of common courtesy, you appear to misunderstand simple concepts such as bias. You also can't understand my reply, I guess-- your stupid hypothetical about the relativism of belief has nothing to do with this topic. The definition of sham science is not based on your individual views, no matter what they are.

Likewise, it is not defined by YOUR definition. There are boatloads of scientists to support either side. I lack common courtesy because you lacked common sense. Had you place this steaming pile of thread where it belonged, I wouldn't have cared.
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Likewise, it is not defined by YOUR definition. There are boatloads of scientists to support either side. I lack common courtesy because you lacked common sense. Had you place this steaming pile of thread where it belonged, I wouldn't have cared.

No. The world science community squarely discounts intelligent design, and it is not considered true science.

If I could, I'd ban ya. But I can't. So STFU and go somewhere where you'll be more, um, on your intellectual level.
 

DAGTA

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Since Intelligent Design is considered linked to religion, it is probably best left out of public schools. Since the Theory of Evolution is still a theory, I feel it is important to make it clear, when it is taught, that it is still a theory, not fact.
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Likewise, it is not defined by YOUR definition. There are boatloads of scientists to support either side. I lack common courtesy because you lacked common sense. Had you place this steaming pile of thread where it belonged, I wouldn't have cared.

No. The world science community squarely discounts intelligent design, and it is not considered true science.

If I could, I'd ban ya. But I can't. So STFU and go somewhere where you'll be more, um, on your intellectual level.

1) Nice commie response. He disagrees, so ban him. :roll:

2) I just come here to abuse those less logically gifted. Kinda a break from real life. Though I do wish that some would at least give me a run for my money ONCE in a while.
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Likewise, it is not defined by YOUR definition. There are boatloads of scientists to support either side. I lack common courtesy because you lacked common sense. Had you place this steaming pile of thread where it belonged, I wouldn't have cared.

No. The world science community squarely discounts intelligent design, and it is not considered true science.

If I could, I'd ban ya. But I can't. So STFU and go somewhere where you'll be more, um, on your intellectual level.

1) Nice commie response. He disagrees, so ban him. :roll:

2) I just come here to abuse those less logically gifted. Kinda a break from real life. Though I do wish that some would at least give me a run for my money ONCE in a while.

No, you're allowed to disagree. You're not supposed to be a stupid troll. I less logically gifted than you... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You have to come a little stronger next time, dummy.
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Likewise, it is not defined by YOUR definition. There are boatloads of scientists to support either side. I lack common courtesy because you lacked common sense. Had you place this steaming pile of thread where it belonged, I wouldn't have cared.

No. The world science community squarely discounts intelligent design, and it is not considered true science.

If I could, I'd ban ya. But I can't. So STFU and go somewhere where you'll be more, um, on your intellectual level.

1) Nice commie response. He disagrees, so ban him. :roll:

2) I just come here to abuse those less logically gifted. Kinda a break from real life. Though I do wish that some would at least give me a run for my money ONCE in a while.

No, you're allowed to disagree. You're not supposed to be a stupid troll. I less logically gifted than you... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You have to come a little stronger next time, dummy.

Dummy? Might as well have called me poopyhead. But thanks for proving my point.
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Dummy? Might as well have called me poopyhead. But thanks for proving my point.

Your, um, point is that you can choose to call evolution sham science, making it sham science. Meanwhile the NAS and the whole world of science thinks otherwise, and regards intelligent design as sham science. Have a nice day.
 

mugs

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Well this thread is going places...

Seeing as how DainBramaged likes to post pictures of himself holding guns, and 6000SUX stole his name from Robocop, I think this matter should be settled with a duel. Pistols at dawn.
 

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Good grief...not hard to tell which side YOU fall on, now is it? :roll: Pack your sh!t up and go down to P&N, you stupid fvcking troll.

Who's stupid, or a troll? Sham science is sham science. Nothing I said is a troll. I'm seriously interested to know the percentage of people that would vote either way, although I realize the distribution here will not be exactly in line with that of America.

Coming in here and calling something than some consider to be legitimate "sham science" shows that you are NOT seriously interested. You just want to stir up dissension and strife. Maybe I think that evolution is sham science. So, sham science is sham science. Get that sh!t out of our science classes and put it in world religions. Jesus.

Science, in the broadest sense, refers to any system of objective knowledge. In a more restricted sense, science refers to a system of acquiring knowledge based on the scientific method, as well as to the organized body of knowledge gained through such research.

science: a method of learning about the world by applying the principles of the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those hypotheses in valid and reliable ways; also refers to the organized body of knowledge that results from scientific study.

faith:Aceptance of ideals, beliefs, etc., which are not necessarily demonstrable through experimentation or reason.

faith and religion are not science
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: mugs
Well this thread is going places...

Seeing as how DainBramaged likes to post pictures of himself holding guns, and 6000SUX stole his name from Robocop, I think this matter should be settled with a duel. Pistols at dawn.

I never duel while hungover. :p
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: mugs
Well this thread is going places...

Seeing as how DainBramaged likes to post pictures of himself holding guns, and 6000SUX stole his name from Robocop, I think this matter should be settled with a duel. Pistols at dawn.

I never duel while hungover. :p

Then you better keep drinking. Can't get a hangover if you're still drunk.