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simple upgrade turning monumentous

BTRY B 529th FA BN

BTRY B 529th FA BN

Lifer
straight to the point, i have 2 store bought OEM system builders win7 pro 64bit OSs.. upgraded my laptop with a PATA SSD but the CPU doesn't support 64-bit mode. I remember they split up the sales between 32 & 64 bit versions in Win7.. is there a work around to this situation that doesn't include buying a new OS?

the laptop is a Dell Inspiron 6000 with a 1.73GHz single core, 1GB ram, system

edit: is it worth it to get W 8.1 Pro now or wait for Win 9 ?
 
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BTRY B 529th FA BN said:
straight to the point, i have 2 store bought OEM system builders win7 pro 64bit OSs.. upgraded my laptop with a PATA SSD but the CPU doesn't support 64-bit mode. I remember they split up the sales between 32 & 64 bit versions in Win7.. is there a work around to this situation that doesn't include buying a new OS?

the laptop is a Dell Inspiron 6000 with a 1.73GHz single core, 1GB ram, system

edit: is it worth it to get W 8.1 Pro now or wait for Win 9 ?
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Ah tell ya, BTRY -- this stuff is just hard to keep up with.

As I understood it, only the retail version of the Win 7 OS would include both 32 and 64-bit versions. You may be "SOL" on that.

That single-core laptop -- 533Mhz FSB -- was released around 2005. I'm sure you can still get plenty of use out of it, and I'd guess that a 32-bit version of Win 7 won't pose a problem. I only say this, because I'm using hardware only a year "younger" than your laptop with a contemporary OS version.

I heard a rumor from a friend who has gone laptop/netbook/mobile F***-nuts. He's also got a couple desktops still running XP. The point being: recent laptops shipping with Win 8 were difficult to downgrade to Win 7 owing to driver availability.

On the other hand, Win 8 SHOULD accommodate older hardware. The only question: does it require older hardware beyond "single-core." I wouldn't be able to answer that. Maybe . . . likely . . . . not sure. . . .

If you can even make phone contact with M$ -- something which could seem next to impossible -- you might inquire about some download for the 32-bit version to use with your product key for activation. I also can't say with any authority on that one.

If it were me, I suppose I'd just swallow the cost for buying the 32-bit Win 7 OEM disc. Or -- getting a newer laptop.

The same friend I mentioned is buying several of the same model of Gateway laptops -- C2D systems. these were business surplus and refurbished. He's shipping one to me with Win 7, and it's going to cost me something just over $250+. So there are newer dual-core laptops out there for similar prices, I think.

But I'm getting weary of perpetual aging of hardware, tech-progress and other factors that make me poorer for wanting to keep up -- or just stay "connected." And that is probably an indicator of whether a person has reached "old age."
 
escrow4 said:
Chuck it and buy a new one. My phone is as fast. Seriously. Its not 2005 anymore.
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My Note 3 quad runs at 2.something GHz, but I'd put money on the 1.73ghz C2D in my old laptop having a higher IPC.

BTW, where did you find a PATA SSD, OP?

Edit: That 64bit key should work to install either 64 or x86 version. You just need an x86 ISO.
 
You should of seen it run on 512mb.. i started looking for more ram on the net then opened up the back to get an idea of what timings it had and what was even in the thing and found I had 2x512mb sticks.. i did some trouble shooting and on one of the boots it recognized the other 512mb, thank god! it was painfully slow,,, 5 min stalls/hangups that would not cure unless a battery pull was done. How much ram does Win 8.1 Pro use? I could pick up 2x2Gb for 61$ but that would be pushing the limits, 80$ for the PATA SSD (New Egg) 99$ for a 32bit OS, then another 60$ for ram and that's about 2/3rds of how much I want to spend already, :hmm:

Can I get the x86 ISO from Microsoft?
 
BTRY B 529th FA BN said:
You should of seen it run on 512mb.. i started looking for more ram on the net then opened up the back to get an idea of what timings it had and what was even in the thing and found I had 2x512mb sticks.. i did some trouble shooting and on one of the boots it recognized the other 512mb, thank god! it was painfully slow,,, 5 min stalls/hangups that would not cure unless a battery pull was done. How much ram does Win 8.1 Pro use? I could pick up 2x2Gb for 61$ but that would be pushing the limits, 80$ for the PATA SSD (New Egg) 99$ for a 32bit OS, then another 60$ for ram and that's about 2/3rds of how much I want to spend already, :hmm:

Can I get the x86 ISO from Microsoft?
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Digital River is the company microsoft subcontracts their ecommerce delivery to.

http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsof...ads-once-again-available-digital-river-239516

Just follow the links, download the x86 ISO from DR, and install. Make sure you get the version (home, ultimate, pro, etc) that matches your key.
 
Is this the correct download? Says "Windows 7 Professional x86 SP1 U (media refresh)" and I'm downloading this one: "X17-51983.iso" is that right? I ask because there are a bunch of different versions
 
Sounds like you have roughly the same Dell 6000 I do... Pentium M/512MB RAM, 80GB PATA HDD. I considered updating to a PATA SSD but decided against it... just wasn't worth it, and XP was dying soon, anyway. I have it running Xubuntu now... I just didn't want to get into trying to find drivers and such for W7.

Depending on how silly you want to get... I updated the CPU (eBay) and swapped in 2x 1GB Crucial RAM (Newegg) and that made a pretty big difference.
 
Thank you everyone for the help and replies so far.

What kind of chip could I put in this thing? Do they have dual cores Pentium M chips?? Going from 512mb to 1Gb stopped the constant slow access of the HDD's swap file. I'm thinking with the SSD will alleviate this slow down as well as speed up access time etc while reducing heat if I just keep it at 1Gb or RAM but if I could drop in a dual core that might make this a lasting vacation/backup laptop.
 
BTRY B 529th FA BN said:
Thank you everyone for the help and replies so far.

What kind of chip could I put in this thing? Do they have dual cores Pentium M chips?? Going from 512mb to 1Gb stopped the constant slow access of the HDD's swap file. I'm thinking with the SSD will alleviate this slow down as well as speed up access time etc while reducing heat if I just keep it at 1Gb or RAM but if I could drop in a dual core that might make this a lasting vacation/backup laptop.
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Odds are you cant go to any chip. Laptop chips are typically soldered to the board, they are not made to be swappable by the consumer even if you could somehow get your hands on a mobile chip from a retail outlet.

Things might have been different a decade ago, but these days there's really no such thing as upgrading a laptop processor. The kicker is for a couple bucks more than the cost of better ram and a new CPU, you could just outright buy a new laptop that blows the old one entirely out of the water. Any $300 Best Buy weekly special would put that thing to shame.
 
Mushkins said:
Odds are you cant go to any chip. Laptop chips are typically soldered to the board, they are not made to be swappable by the consumer even if you could somehow get your hands on a mobile chip from a retail outlet.

Things might have been different a decade ago, but these days there's really no such thing as upgrading a laptop processor. The kicker is for a couple bucks more than the cost of better ram and a new CPU, you could just outright buy a new laptop that blows the old one entirely out of the water. Any $300 Best Buy weekly special would put that thing to shame.
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Dude this thing is like the bomb! It's got the classic Dell logo on it, 1.73Ghz SINGLE core processor! Imagine that speed! lol sorry for getting carried away, but yeah I know a few bucks more and I could get a nice Ultrabook, hence my topic title 'Simple upgrade turning monumentous' lol but thanks for the reminder 🙂
 
Well I got an intact download. The X17-51983.iso installed and I am now doing the updates. Thanks for the download link! That saved me 99$ on the Pro pack of Win8.1 which included both 32 & 64 bit versions from Micro-Center.
 
Mushkins said:
Odds are you cant go to any chip. Laptop chips are typically soldered to the board, they are not made to be swappable by the consumer even if you could somehow get your hands on a mobile chip from a retail outlet.
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No, it's just a regular mobile Intel chip set in a socket... I know, I swapped both my Pentium M chip in my 6000, and my daughter's AMD chip in her 1501 Dell laptop.

OP, from a pure budget point, I think I got a 2.0GHz chip for something like $20 off eBay. I would have to go back in and see what I have. There were faster chips, but the price really went up. I know I couldn't go dual-core, however. When you have the lid off, make sure you clean out the CPU heat exchanger... mine was plugged up with all sorts of crud!
 
BTRY B 529th FA BN said:
Dude this thing is like the bomb! It's got the classic Dell logo on it, 1.73Ghz SINGLE core processor! Imagine that speed! lol sorry for getting carried away, but yeah I know a few bucks more and I could get a nice Ultrabook, hence my topic title 'Simple upgrade turning monumentous' lol but thanks for the reminder 🙂
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You know what, though? It's still a solid computer after all these years... that's why I'm trying to keep mine alive. Correction: I have LinuxMint on mine, now... Xubuntu was too slow. But it still rocks as a browser/email/DVD machine...
 
Hey all! Just want to update you guys and let you know I got it up and running with this PATA SSD and it's sweet! Even with only 1Gb of ram. Firefox can eat it up a little memory. With 9 tabs open I am around 650Mb use of physical memory use.

I think this chip will be fine. I did look at CPUs and I still am tempted. I just wish I could do a dual core for this thing. If I were to swap out the CPU I think the real benefit would come when I cleaned the board off. The fan kicks on within 10 minutes of use and stays on.

Win7 seems to be running fine on it with this SSD. It's like a new machine, and a new toy for me! 🙂
 
Rock!

If you can, the cooling fan ports are at the upper left corner (as you are sitting at the machine) and the bottom underneath. Pump some compressed air through there and see if you can't get some of that crud out.

I think your CPU is a 740/1.73GHz, I replaced mine with a 770/2.13GHz; there is a 780/2.26GHz, but it was much more expensive (from a budget point of view.) I used cpu-world for my research, I don't know if I tried to research a dual-core swap. It took me about an hour to bust open the 6000, pull the old processor out, clean up everything, set the new CPU and get everything back together.
 
Nice! One thing I miss about the 725/1.6Ghz and 735/1.7Ghz is that they idled at 600mhz, whereas my 750/1.86Ghz only downclocks to 800mhz. I turned Speedstep off in BIOS about a month ago, and it handles everything quite well at 800mhz though (with less heat/fan noise), so well that I haven't felt any need to turn Speedstep back on since. Yeah, screw upgrading, rockin' my Pentium M 750 @ 800mhz (CPU-Z says 798mhz) always!
 
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