Simple question...why doesn't AMD produce their own chipsets for motherboards?

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I've always wondered about that. It would seem to be a revenue stream that they are just forgoing completely.....letting VIA, nVidia, SiS, etc., reap the financial benefits of AMD's lack of participation in this category.

Take Intel. With every new processor release, there are at least two chipsets released along with the processors. Want a C2D? Sure thing....do you want a 975 or 965 chipset to go with that? (Admittedly, nVidia did get around to releasing a host of chipsets for the Intel chips, but on the C2D release, the 975/965 chipsets were the only players out there.)

So, when C2D came out, Intel sold almost as many chipsets as they did processors, not to mention all the licensing fees the mb manufacturers pay and the like.

AMD, on the other hand, has almost always maintained that they depend upon 3rd party development for chipsets for motherboards that run their processors. I really find that curious in that, not only just casting aside a whole revenue stream that could do the company a lot of good to its bottom line, but it would seem to me that a chipset would have to be developed and constructed just to develop and test a new processor. You have to have something to run the cpu on during its development and testing on different OS's.

So, since AMD's last chipset foray was approx. 4 years ago, and failed quite nicely, maybe that's why AMD really purchased ATI....not for their graphics expertise (although that will be a nice benefit), but more for ATI's ability to bring to market functional motherboard chipsets.....such 690 chipset and 790 chipsets, which are really nothing more than rebranded ATI chipsets.


Of course, Barcelona is on the horizon......and while AMD is close to finalizing the cpu, they've only just released the cpu to motherboard manufacturers to get to work on their BIOS setups. Seems to me a complete waste of time and money for AMD.....AMD should have a complete lineup of working chipsets and BIOS's for the Barcelona already.

So, why does AMD ignore this profitable arena? Lack of production capability? Lack of production skill? What?
 

Salvador

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They did for a short time. I have one (Gigabyte GA-7IXE4 (Socket A) -- AMD 751/756 chipset) Apparently, it wasn't that profitable for them.
 

cm123

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Originally posted by: Salvador
They did for a short time. I have one (Gigabyte GA-7IXE4 (Socket A) -- AMD 751/756 chipset) Apparently, it wasn't that profitable for them.

actually they do right now... AMD 580/690 etc... Asus has AMD Boards, Epox etc...
 

Salvador

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Originally posted by: cm123
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Salvador
They did for a short time. I have one (Gigabyte GA-7IXE4 (Socket A) -- AMD 751/756 chipset) Apparently, it wasn't that profitable for them.</end quote></div>

actually they do right now... AMD 580/690 etc... Asus has AMD Boards, Epox etc...
Thanks for the info. I thought that they stopped making chipsets.

 

cm123

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Originally posted by: Salvador
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: cm123
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Salvador
They did for a short time. I have one (Gigabyte GA-7IXE4 (Socket A) -- AMD 751/756 chipset) Apparently, it wasn't that profitable for them.</end quote></div>

actually they do right now... AMD 580/690 etc... Asus has AMD Boards, Epox etc...</end quote></div>
Thanks for the info. I thought that they stopped making chipsets.

its like everything else right now AMD, not a lot going on, few AMD chips, few from the ATI before the merger or at the time...

...I hope for AMD sake that all the old AMD fans buy AMD, even if not the fastest out there, they need cash flow right now to even get the new products out the door it seems.

They really could use a refresh for more highend chipset, great to see 3 PCIe 16x board that allows AMD to run pair of 2900XT's and a third (anything really) 1900 series as PhysX (like they plug on their website with Havoc. Sure not needed, just be cool, get few sales and hell of a lot of talk and debate, all which sells...


 

Peter

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AMD don't have to make a new chipset for every minor CPU improvement, simply because their architecture has the important bits (RAM controller and northbridge) inside the CPU. So technically, they're making the important bit of what used to make a "chipset" anyway.

Featuritis and performance improvement on everything else - peripherals, storage, expansion slots - are currently not in motion much.

A steady chipset platform is an advantage - board makers don't have to start from scratch all the time. Just look at how strikingly similar many AM2 boards are to their 939 predecessors. Just change the CPU and its surroundings, keep the entire left half as it was. Smooth!
 

f4phantom2500

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Originally posted by: o1die
Ati makes them, and amd owns ati.

yeah that's how they make them now. you also have to consider the cost that goes into making a chipset. intel has so much money they can easily afford to do that, whereas amd would have to spend a lot of money just to do something that they can license nvidia, sis, via, and ati to do. then they bought ati, so in that sense they do now.