Simple network problem seeing each other in W98se

[blackhawk]

I have two home computers used to be connected till I swapped out cases then went to reconnect and they cant see each other. The one I think has the problem is a BX board with the card in PCI 3 & the back leds are steady full(normal) and flashing 10/100(not normal?)
They are connected just by a cable. They have sharing enabled and see themselves only.
Should I try another IRQ? Any links to help me troubleshoot. The network box has all the same stuff in each one.

 

[obenton]

Hope it's a crossover cable! When you changed cases did you move any of the adapters from the motherboard slots they had been in? Have each computer ping itself and the other computer and report what happens.

 

[blackhawk]

Yes, its the same crossover cable I was using. I swapped out a Yamaha snd card for a SBlive and had to move slots, consequently had to reformat hd. Believe all settings are the same in network and reseated & moved card.

Dumb question. How to do ping? I know its a test but nothing else.

 

[techhead]

start - run - command

at ANY Dos prompt type: PING IP ADDRESS or PING Localhost.

If they both see themselves, sounds like maybe an issue with the cable or maybe MS file print sharing.

 

[blackhawk]

The ping times out with nothing across from either end.
The first computer has a via cs and the card is on int 10, the bx board is on int 5. I checked the cable connection and it is still the crossover that I used before. All I can think of to do right now is remove and reinstall. Any ideas??

 

[techhead]

sounds like it could be either the card(s) is/are not installed correctly, or more to the point, if you get a "no reply" when pinging localhost, your TCP/IP is not installed correctly or is corrupted.

 

[obenton]

NICs usually work ok in PCI slot3. Make sure it's not sharing an IRQ. If it's sharing IRQ5 with sound card (DOS legacy soundblaster) you can simply disable the latter in the current hardware profile. If sharing with other things as well, you'll have to do some shuffling.

 

[blackhawk]

Just confirm to this newbie that the ping is to the other computer? I do local host and it works fine as it pings itself right? It times out calling the other one.

 

[Rudee]

Are you absolutely positive File and Print Sharing is enabled on both PC's?

 

[obenton]

No ping other computers' IP addresses = hardware problem: bad cable, bad NIC driver, NIC unhappy in PCI slot, etc., etc.

 

[CoMmAnDoMoE2001]

Yea what he said

 

[techhead]

ditto two posts above

 

[sun818]

Computer1:
Add TCP/IP protocol: 192.168.0.1
Add NetBEUI protocol
Ensure file and print sharing is turned on.
Right click on C Drive and full share the drive.

Computer2:
Add TCP/IP: 192.168.0.2
Add NetBEUI
Ensure file and print sharing is turned on.
Right on click C drive and full share the drive.

Connect your two network cards using a cross over cable. Both cards should have lights turned on. From computer1's dos prompt, try to ping itself 192.168.0.1 If that is successful, ping computer two 192.168.0.2. If that is successful, go to Network Neighborhood and see if you can find computer2.

If the NICs are different brands, make sure the transfer mode are both equal. In other words, make sure they are both running at 10 full duplex, or 100 full duplex.

 

[blackhawk]

Will try the above. All has been done except Netbui. I'm planning on changing slots of the bx board and reinstalling the software. Thanks for all the help.

 

[blackhawk]

All done but still no go. It pings itself fine, both, but not each other. What is NetBeui? I dont believe I used it before. Swapped cards so both on irq 5 and both are aopen cards that worked 2 months ago. Cable is still the same. I'm stumped.
Have a network friend I'll have to call in and maybe he wont lecture long on how great NT is!!

 

[sun818]

NetBEUI is a Microsoft protocol. For two machines, it is the easiest way to set up a Network. You install it on both machines and they broadcast their machines via Network Neighborhood. Even if you can't ping the other machine, NetBEUI should be enough to see each other. Please make sure that file sharing is turned on and you share a folder at least one machine.

Thanks,
Sun

 

[surd615]

I'm having the same problem here. I had 1 pc running Win2K/WinME dualboot and 1 running WinME seeing each other and sharing an Internet connection fine, until I changed my IPs from automatic to static in order to add a Linux PC to the network. Now I can't even ping the local machine .