Sim City

[acemcmac]

I was huge in SimCity when I was younger...

"Sim City power politics and planning" was the best strategy guide ever written....

last night I played sim city 3000 for the first time and got bored with it rather quickly. I especially found bridges and highways to be too much of a PITA to set up.

Anyone here ever play sim city 4? Is it worth the money?

Any "Sim City power politics and planning"-like books out there I should read up on?

thanks

 

[gorcorps]

Sim city 4 is just garbage. There's too much micromanagement to have fun with, as you're always staring at numbers and not at the game. It's also about the same game as before just prettier... but not that pretty.

 

[AdamSnow]

Sim City Classic was the only good one.

 

[Noema]

Simcity 2000 was teh WTFpwnz0rz.

 

[Maximilian]

Im a big fan of the whole series and have played every simcity game. Simcity 4 was allrite... i enjoyed 3 more though as simcity 4 (without the expansion) is significantly harder and has a lot of annoying things that cant be disabled. Itll automatically build streets for you and do a crap job of it, the houses must face a road and they wont automatically do this you must either relay emm or build a road there... also half the cities you build end up with transport problems as your sims are all fat lazy soabs and wont walk to the frickin busstop or w/e and well ykno you get the idea.

 

[jack1201]

I have same feeling ,too. I think they put too many focus on the details. But forgot how to making fun. I just play simcity once then i give up. Not just it is boring, it also give my computer a hard time. So I give it up, no matter how much I love making a city. T_T

 

[MetalMat]

The one for the SNES was awesome

 

[40Hands]

Originally posted by: MetalMat
The one for the SNES was awesome

I had that. Good stuff.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: Soviet
Im a big fan of the whole series and have played every simcity game. Simcity 4 was allrite... i enjoyed 3 more though as simcity 4 (without the expansion) is significantly harder and has a lot of annoying things that cant be disabled. Itll automatically build streets for you and do a crap job of it, the houses must face a road and they wont automatically do this you must either relay emm or build a road there... also half the cities you build end up with transport problems as your sims are all fat lazy soabs and wont walk to the frickin busstop or w/e and well ykno you get the idea.

ooooooo

 

[JBT]

I LOVED the original Sim city and sim city 2000. I played the demo version of 3000 it was okay. I have never played 4.

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Sim City Classic was the only good one.

 

[Rottie]

I just started playing simcity 2000 last week and I forgot how to play it..I missed it for a long time.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Noema
Simcity 2000 was teh WTFpwnz0rz.

Yeah, it was. But Simcity 3K and 4 are continuations of that and they are good too. SimCity 4 with rush hour expansion is nice. I like the increased detail. With 2K and 3K you had any city you build look pretty similar to another one. I feel like 4 you can customize a bit more and do more things. The price is that some people complain about it being too complex. I don't think there's that much micromanagement.

Apparently the next version is going to dumb it down again...

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Sim City Classic was the only good one.

 

[Continuity28]

Simcity 4 is a bit complicated... look at any GameFAQs guide on it, especially dealing with transportation.

Complicated games are nice if you have control, but when they are both complicated and random, that's not as fun.

I like SimCity/2000/3000 much better.

 

[raildogg]

i loved sim city 2, i loved sim city 3000

i play sim city 4 the first couple of days i bought it, i have not played it ever since

its been more than a year since i last played it. i just never got into

i felt they should make the game for fun and less of a hassle. scale back the graphics since it bogs everything down, and instead work on making it more fun

i thought sim city 3000 and sim city 2 were better

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Noema
Simcity 2000 was teh WTFpwnz0rz.

Yeah, it was. But Simcity 3K and 4 are continuations of that and they are good too. SimCity 4 with rush hour expansion is nice. I like the increased detail. With 2K and 3K you had any city you build look pretty similar to another one. I feel like 4 you can customize a bit more and do more things. The price is that some people complain about it being too complex. I don't think there's that much micromanagement.

Apparently the next version is going to dumb it down again...

Thank god... lol roll on the simpler easier simcity 5000!!

Seriously though, go build yourself a huge metropolis and try and sort out transport... you will most likely find that the center of your city dies due to high traffic/noise.... NOISE?! why the hell is that a factor! There should be a "soundproof walls/windows" ordinance to eliminate this like in real cities.

It took me ages to build a semi-decent metropolis which used grids of avenues for transport and had a symmetrical gridlike mass transit system with busses and a subway. Did they use it? Yes but not enough to make a significant impact on traffic, many large 3000+ population buildings would still looks dirty and crap.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Soviet
Seriously though, go build yourself a huge metropolis and try and sort out transport... you will most likely find that the center of your city dies due to high traffic/noise.... NOISE?! why the hell is that a factor! There should be a "soundproof walls/windows" ordinance to eliminate this like in real cities.

What do you define as huge? Transportation is definitely a challenge, but it is in the real world too. Is it high traffic _or_ noise, because then it probably just means high traffic for commercial areas. Noise is a factor for residential areas. But yeah, it seems that traffic is the main obstacle with SimCity 4, but I think that is sort of interesting.
I do have complaints however. Sometimes a grid system can actually hurt you (which I don't think is very realistic). The problem is, sims tend to all use the same routes. It's hard to explain without a picture but sometimes if you only give a certain buidling one route (but make sure it can handle the traffic, your overall traffic situation will be tolerable). Otherwise, it seems like 90% of the sims use 10% of the roads when they could be spreading out.

Do you have the transportation addon? Because they have things like one-way streets that can help out too. Not to mention tools that let you see how people are getting to work.

 

[spherrod]

I gave up after SimCity 2000...

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Soviet
Seriously though, go build yourself a huge metropolis and try and sort out transport... you will most likely find that the center of your city dies due to high traffic/noise.... NOISE?! why the hell is that a factor! There should be a "soundproof walls/windows" ordinance to eliminate this like in real cities.

What do you define as huge? Transportation is definitely a challenge, but it is in the real world too. Is it high traffic _or_ noise, because then it probably just means high traffic for commercial areas. Noise is a factor for residential areas. But yeah, it seems that traffic is the main obstacle with SimCity 4, but I think that is sort of interesting.
I do have complaints however. Sometimes a grid system can actually hurt you (which I don't think is very realistic). The problem is, sims tend to all use the same routes. It's hard to explain without a picture but sometimes if you only give a certain buidling one route (but make sure it can handle the traffic, your overall traffic situation will be tolerable). Otherwise, it seems like 90% of the sims use 10% of the roads when they could be spreading out.

Do you have the transportation addon? Because they have things like one-way streets that can help out too. Not to mention tools that let you see how people are getting to work.

I havent played it in ages but i think a 500,000+ people city is huge. Yes traffic is a problem in real life, an unsolvable problem without flying cars or teleportation as if everyone jumped on the public transport system it would be overcrowded and suck. Since sc4 is a game i think it should allow every problem to be solved, even that of traffic, whether A: by building a shizload of roads or B: setting up a mass transit system. I used a grid system since its easy to manage and its a game. In real life a grid system is what most brittish cities have at their center and it sucks as theres traffic lights every 100 metres etc. Yes i found that they seem to all flock to the one road, which they shouldnt. They should use the umpteen other routes ive build for them but noooo. Even with the high capacity avenue grids i had they would always clog one or two places.

I used the tool to see how they get to work, but every neighborhood jus seems to take a different route (but they all usually do converge on the one bit of road/avenue/highway eventually where it gets clogged) and tbh i cant be bothered setting up a custom transport system for each neighborhood when they dont even seem to use the ones that are already in place.

In conclusion: I liked sc3 better

 

[npoe1]

In SimCity 4 you don?t have neighbor cities, instead you build those cities and so you could work 4 times more, that?s cool but I think that could be an option. I think that they could add more buildings and things like that. I also dream with custom ordinances, but there is no huge difference between SimCity 3000 and SimCity 4 anything more than graphics.

 

[Continuity28]

My favorite, back in the day, was to make a kickass city in SimCity 2000 and then load up Streets of Simcity or SimCopter and wreck havoc in my city.

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: Noema
Simcity 2000 was teh WTFpwnz0rz.

I've played them all, and 2000 was my favorite

 

[The Green Bean]

I got addicted to SC3K...4 is nice but not as playable as the previous versions. Love the impression games city building series though.

 

[dug777]

I really enjoyed SC4, visually it kicks butt (1280 with all the options maxxed out>j00), and the Rush Hour pack is fun too. It's a huge RAM hog tho, i wouldn't bother playing with less than my GB of RAM, having played it with 512mb as well.

Certainly my 9800 pro, 2.1Ghz tbred-b, GB of RAM handle it ok.