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Spooner

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Bank Robbery Made Easy................... to arrest
The man allegedly robbed a bank located in the same downtown building as the local FBI office. The bank is also across the street from the city police department.

"If you rob the bank in the same building as the FBI, it won't take long," Assistant U.S. Attorney John Green said.

Jonathan Waldon was charged in federal court with attempted bank robbery, which carries a maximum penalty of up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
 

tk149

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Originally posted by: Electrode
Is it just me, or are today's criminals dumber than ever?

Actually, only the dumb ones get caught. You'll never hear about the smart ones who got away.
 

Mill

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This happened to a FBI office in WV. The bank was robbed 3 times before the Fed idiots finally caught them. Their officer was directly above the bank.
 

jaeger66

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Originally posted by: Millennium
This happened to a FBI office in WV. The bank was robbed 3 times before the Fed idiots finally caught them. Their officer was directly above the bank.

The FBI doesn't send their all-stars to WV.
 

ThaGrandCow

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Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Electrode
Is it just me, or are today's criminals dumber than ever?

Actually, only the dumb ones get caught. You'll never hear about the smart ones who got away.

I always wonder about that. How many of them actually get away compared to the ones that get caught? I wonder what the ratio is.
 

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Electrode
Is it just me, or are today's criminals dumber than ever?

Actually, only the dumb ones get caught. You'll never hear about the smart ones who got away.

I always wonder about that. How many of them actually get away compared to the ones that get caught? I wonder what the ratio is.

give me until next monday, i could probably find out.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Electrode
Is it just me, or are today's criminals dumber than ever?
Actually, only the dumb ones get caught. You'll never hear about the smart ones who got away.
I always wonder about that. How many of them actually get away compared to the ones that get caught? I wonder what the ratio is.
IIRC, the vast majority of crimes go unsolved/unpunished. Something like 90%.
 

tk149

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Originally posted by: Spooner
there's no way 90% of crimes go unpunished!

Think about how many crimes are never reported...

The ultimate crime is the one where no one ever realizes a crime was committed.
 

LordRaiden

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Originally posted by: Electrode
Is it just me, or are today's criminals dumber than ever?
Ah, it's nice to see the products of our public schools thanks to greedy politicians with only their own interests in mind. This is their fault. I'd blame the parents, but they were too stupid to fix the issue to begin with because of the same problem.
 

tm37

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Originally posted by: LordRaiden
Originally posted by: Electrode
Is it just me, or are today's criminals dumber than ever?
Ah, it's nice to see the products of our public schools thanks to greedy politicians with only their own interests in mind. This is their fault. I'd blame the parents, but they were too stupid to fix the issue to begin with because of the same problem.

Are you saying parents should try to teach kids to be smarter criminals
 

cmv

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I was driving to school yesterday and some dumb guy whipped by me with 15 sheriff troopers on his ass. He robbed a convenience store and was making his getaway. The police/sheriff people IDed him and they had the license plate and all (after all, they were like 2 ft off of his butt and on his right side) but they called the chase off once he got into Madison.

I was sitting there at the red light, the last car in the line, watching the troopers and the car approaching. I was bracing for impact just in case. I had my foot clamped on the break pedal. Thank god the idiot went through the empty left turn lane and then cut back into the regular road.

Watching the sheriff guys try to get him to run over those coiled up metal tire poppers was fun! They almost got him but the guy who tossed it out didn't have enough time and he just couldn't get it out far enough.

It is a strange thing to see a guy literally 10 ft from your window to his window flying past. I don't know what he was thinking but sometimes I thank God, and I'm not even religious, that I'm not an idiot.
 

yoda291

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Originally posted by: tm37
Originally posted by: LordRaiden
Originally posted by: Electrode
Is it just me, or are today's criminals dumber than ever?
Ah, it's nice to see the products of our public schools thanks to greedy politicians with only their own interests in mind. This is their fault. I'd blame the parents, but they were too stupid to fix the issue to begin with because of the same problem.

Are you saying parents should try to teach kids to be smarter criminals

My parents have always taught me "If you're gonna do something, do it right". I suppose it applies here.

Also, how does one get a statistic on the number of crimes no one notices if..well...no one notices it?
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Electrode
Is it just me, or are today's criminals dumber than ever?
Actually, only the dumb ones get caught. You'll never hear about the smart ones who got away.
I always wonder about that. How many of them actually get away compared to the ones that get caught? I wonder what the ratio is.
IIRC, the vast majority of crimes go unsolved/unpunished. Something like 90%.

Wrong. Not at all. It depends upon the crime, but clearance rates are highest among serious crimes. 90+% of all murders are cleared, 80% of rapes, 70% of robberies, etc. The crimes that are HARDEST to catch are white collar/public order/simple theft crimes. Those crimes have a lower clearance rate because a lot of time people don't even know a crime has occured. Actual crimes that are reported, normally have a very good clearance rate. The dark figure of crime is the actual TRUE crime rate. It takes in account crimes that were not reported or known to have existed. The only problem is that no one knows what that number is. We can only guess what certain rates are by using information from UCRs, the NCVS, and Self Reports surveys. Serious crimes are always going to have a high clearance rate. Namely, crimes against persons have the highest rate, and then property crimes.
 

Demon-Xanth

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90% can get away if you add in littering, speeding, and rolling stops at stop signs.

Number of times I was speeding 7 years ago:
approximately 400/year.
Number of times I rolled through a stop sign 7 years ago:
Probably about 300/year.

Number of times I sped and rolled through stop signs since then:
YAY 5th Amendment! (at least once, I got a ticket)

The big ones where someone is directly, and permemantly impacted. Are the ones that are the most sought after. Cars can be replaced and insurance billed. Graphitti can be painted over (in most cases). But a human life cannot be returned from the grave. That's why the penalties for violent crimes are so much higher than other types of crimes. Even if running Kazaa gets you a bill for $97.8 Billion.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
90% can get away if you add in littering, speeding, and rolling stops at stop signs.

Number of times I was speeding 7 years ago:
approximately 400/year.
Number of times I rolled through a stop sign 7 years ago:
Probably about 300/year.

Number of times I sped and rolled through stop signs since then:
YAY 5th Amendment! (at least once, I got a ticket)

The big ones where someone is directly, and permemantly impacted. Are the ones that are the most sought after. Cars can be replaced and insurance billed. Graphitti can be painted over (in most cases). But a human life cannot be returned from the grave. That's why the penalties for violent crimes are so much higher than other types of crimes. Even if running Kazaa gets you a bill for $97.8 Billion.

That is why there is two different types of crime. I am trying to remember the name for both, but traffic tickets and the like have their own category.
 

Rastus

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hat is why there is two different types of crime. I am trying to remember the name for both, but traffic tickets and the like have their own category.
Infraction.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Misdemeanor and Felony.

No. Misdemeanor and Felonies are not the classification I am talking. It is not infractions either.

<--- off to look.