desiplaya4life, it's a turban. While there are many different styles of turbans Sikhs wear, the vast majority wear only one. Below is a link to an excellent article that shows off different styles of turbans in the world:http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/news/lifestyles/links/turbans_27.html
i dont' see anything wrong with racial profiling. when was the last time you saw a 40 year old white woman run into a building and blow herself up?
you spelled "liberties" wrong.
also the end of your sentence:
"with the amount of power they are allowed" or
"with other humans rights" or
simply the word "away" seems to be missing.
Sorry . I don't know if any of you follow, but uh all human rights are basically taken away by the Patriot Act.
No, they are (1) harrassing innocent people, (2) because they are too ignorant to do their job properly. The result of this is simply the erison of civil liberties for no productive gain in stopping the enemy. The is a difference between vigilance and paranoia. The former is based on an educated understanding of who's to blame and who may be the perpetrator. The latter is ignorant, willy nilly accusations based on emotional irrationality that comes from fear.
If the CIA had any training at all, they would realize that the turban worn by Sikhs are of a completely different shape and size than those worn by Osama followers. Further, they would realize that Sikhs as a people were a historical subset/departure of Hindus to defend AGAINST THE MUSLIM INVASION of India. Now, with that little bit of information, the sheer stupidity of the Secret Service is made clear.
In those 5 hours that they wasted browbeating and harrassing those kids, 3 terrorists could have been filming that exact building.
Now, were they taking precautions or making America MORE unsafe?
We saw a mid-20s white guy with a buzzcut blow up a few buildings in Oklahoma. Are we stopping all buzzcut haired, rednecks because of that? No, we aren't.
There's a lot more history of the bombers in the middle east.
1 white guy (isolated) vs multiple middle eastern suicide bombers...
Why wasn't there profiling of the redneck 20somethings after Oklahoma? The comparison above had no meaning until 9/11. You are skirting the issue.
The reality is that racial profiling IS of some use, but the use of this type of safety measure requires the UTMOST care in making sure that it is used properly. So far, we've seen people taken off planes because some redneck midwesterner felt that a man "looked suspicious", and then the Ariline complied! Anybody not blond and blue-eyed is suspicious to those types of folks. All these does is to cowtow to PARANOIA. And the result isn't just a detriment to the minorities who unfairly suffer. Good ol' rednecks themselves suffer because a weakened, directionless enforcement of law is a useless one that does nothing but diverts resources from finding and dealing with the true enemy.
I say that mosques should be carefully monitored. Undercover cops should work their way into the community to gather intelligence at these places. THAT's the useful way to go. Willy nilly detainment of "brown people" will do NOTHING to stop terrorism.
Yes, because former Green Berets/Army Rangers/Navy SEALS really take the time to learn the difference between two different kinds of turbans. Is it wrong to stereotype him? Yes. The same people crying out for civil liberties are the same people who would be screaming at the inactions of the government when we get pwn3d by a terrorist attack. Sorry, you can't have it both ways.
Hey, flying 2 planes into the WTC was enough proof that they'll do suicide bombings here if they had the chance.
Your post makes no sense. It mentions section of the military that deal mostly in an external capacity to this country, and leaves out the secret service, and others that come in contact with the citizenry.
YES YOU CAN HAVE IT BOTH WAYS - and that is my whole damn point! The government CAN preserve civil liberties and also act upon terrorism at the same time. In fact, as it stands, the government is eroding civil liberties, but, in many cases, for NOTHING. Random detainments and public accusations of "brown people" do NOTHING to help America protect itself against terrorist attack, when the people it is detaining/harrassing are clearly not connected with the terrorists - a fact that even an OUNCE of education about the various "brown people" in this world would reveal.
The basic point is that many Americans DON'T want to learn about other people and the complexity that brings. At every turn, Bush indulges in the average american idiots plea to remain dumb, to think of things in child-like binaries of good and bad, us and them, to not WANT to recognize that the issue at hand has many actors and many reasons fueling it, from many directions.
To learn about the different cultures out there is beneath these Americans. As far as they are concerned, there is America, and there is everywhere else. For them to learn subtleties of the world is almost to contaminate their purity. As they see it, they shouldn't have to learn about anybody else, well, because, everyone else is inferior.
THAT'S what these willful ignorance is all about.
To learn about the different cultures out there is beneath these Americans. As far as they are concerned, there is America, and there is everywhere else. For them to learn subtleties of the world is almost to contaminate their purity. As they see it, they shouldn't have to learn about anybody else, well, because, everyone else is inferior.
THAT'S what these willful ignorance is all about.
fvck off!!! i don't remember anyone taking precautions against young white males when mcviegh blew up the federal building.
there is a histroy of bombings in the UK by the IRA too, last i checked irish guys are white too, so whats your point?
ooh, too bad, so sad, he was detained and questioned. big deal. it was in the interest of national security. if it takes racial profiling, and a few people being detained for a few hours like this guy to prevent another 9-11 then so be it. its not like the guy was imprisoned, he was taken into custody for less than a day and questioned.
good for the secret service, they're out there doing their job.
edit: and i dont care what kind of turban he was wearing. he was questioned. he was innocent. he is free again. now go take some pictures
good for the secret service, they're out there doing their job.
edit: and i dont care what kind of turban he was wearing. he was questioned. he was innocent. he is free again. now go take some pictures
I would be OK with racial profiling, as long as it's done with respect and not much annoyance or hassle. This would also have to go towards other areas/situations besides just 'terrorists' and cannot mean that we relax security against people who aren't racially profiled. The only problem is that the people that could do the profiling and what not are usually idiots.
No it wasn't. It was a pointless 5-hour interrogation that a little education would have prevented.
How do you know whether protecting against another 9/11 "takes" racial profiling? What proof exists that racial profiling has prevented anything?
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