Sick time (mini rant)

[Ausm]

You have good Points...My Grandmother worked in Housekeeping at our Local Hospital for 25 years and accumulated 300 days sick leave in that time period. She was never late for work and worked all the OT she could wether it was manditory or not. Well anyway one day the told her to pack her bags and hit the road (claimed she was getting slow) Talk about a slap in the face for 25 years of ass breaking work and to top it off they screwed her out of her 300 days of sick leave also. I called the management told what kind of low life scumbags I thought they were to no avail of course


Ausm

 

[StageLeft]

The entire point of sick time is that the company is hoping you won't use it, but allows it to be there in case you need it. Otherwise it's called VACATION time. This is why you shouldn't get paid for unused sick time if you're laid off.

An employee should not be rewarded for not using it, since in an ideal world people only use it when they need it. Rewarding you for not using sick days is like admitting that other people are deliberately taking sick days when they don't need them. Whether this is true or not is beside the point. You need to differentiate between sick days and vacation.

When an employee is given a week of sick a year the company is saying "I Hope you're not sick, but if you are here is a week. I do hope that you don't have to claim that week." This differs from vacation which is a free week that you're given.

 

[MomAndSkoorbaby]

As usual, DITTO!

Originally posted by: Skoorb
The entire point of sick time is that the company is hoping you won't use it, but allows it to be there in case you need it. Otherwise it's called VACATION time. This is why you shouldn't get paid for unused sick time if you're laid off.

An employee should not be rewarded for not using it, since in an ideal world people only use it when they need it. Rewarding you for not using sick days is like admitting that other people are deliberately taking sick days when they don't need them. Whether this is true or not is beside the point. You need to differentiate between sick days and vacation.

When an employee is given a week of sick a year the company is saying "I Hope you're not sick, but if you are here is a week. I do hope that you don't have to claim that week." This differs from vacation which is a free week that you're given.

 

[Chaotic42]

I get yelled at for being sick, but I've been working 60-75 hours a week. Other people just take random days off, but I can't even get a day off ever. When I get sick and go home, I get in trouble.

I do 3 jobs there. I'm the news director, overnight guy, and Network Admin. I also help setup our production studio. Sales people get off whenever they want, including all holidays. I can't even take my vacation if I wanted to.

It's crap man. Sometimes I want to quit just to F*** them over.

Yes, I'm mad about it

 

[dquan97]

Benefits? Vacation time? Sick leave? the place where I work dont even have those! When I was sick -> No pay

 

[rh71]

We don't get to roll-over our vacation days to the next year. The way people work around here, nobody would be using them because they can't. In a customer-based business, it's not always up to us. They also don't want people to "burn out" so they make us use the vacation days. Of course I'd love for it to roll-over, but I think what they're doing is the right way to manage it. Imagine if there were over 300,000 employees all saving up their days. That'd make for a hell of a time when they decide to take it all at once and you need them at work around the same time.

As far as sick days go, we get unlimited. The way I see it, if you give employees a set amount, they are forcing themselves to take it before it expires or resets... and you, as the employer, are asking them to take the free money. What's up with that picture? If the employee cannot manage his own sick days (unlimited) truthfully, then you pull him in to your office for a heart-to-heart chat. What's so hard about it?

If you're "entitled" to a certain amount of sick days by your employer, use them. Use as many as others are using. If people are taking their sick time and not getting in trouble for it, what do you have to lose?

 

[Jzero]

Sick time is a benefit. An opportunity to receive compensation when you are -unable- to be in the office. We're not talking about spending the day at the beach here...

A lot of people are....that's the problem. Honest people don't use their sick days unless they are sick. My mom has coworkers that use sick days whenever they please...they don't feel like going to work, so the just call up a sick day. It has the added benefit of the fact that everyone was expecting them to be there.

I like my company's system where everyone gets x number of "time off." It's like 17 or 18 days. You can use them for whatever reason. Call in sick, use a day. Take 7 for a vacation, etc. That way, when some assclown likes to skip work for kicks, eventually he runs out of days and starts getting his pay docked, but he's free to waste his time off as he desires, and I can use mine as I desire.
The catch-22 is that our supervisor is lax about people documenting their time off, which allows assclown to take vacations AND skip work as he pleases. So I have to play his game, too.
But it's quite effective in other departments.

The negative part is that if I take a 2-week vacation in July and get deathly ill in November, I'm going to run short on time off, but my company is pretty understanding about that....

There's really no way to win.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
The entire point of sick time is that the company is hoping you won't use it, but allows it to be there in case you need it. Otherwise it's called VACATION time. This is why you shouldn't get paid for unused sick time if you're laid off.

An employee should not be rewarded for not using it, since in an ideal world people only use it when they need it. Rewarding you for not using sick days is like admitting that other people are deliberately taking sick days when they don't need them. Whether this is true or not is beside the point. You need to differentiate between sick days and vacation.

When an employee is given a week of sick a year the company is saying "I Hope you're not sick, but if you are here is a week. I do hope that you don't have to claim that week." This differs from vacation which is a free week that you're given.

While I agree with this for the most part, you have to realize some companies do not make the distinction between sick and vacation time. I had all of mine in one lump sum entitled paid leave. I earned it by working. I worked 40-60 hour weeks, called in very rarely (usually the day before a business trip or whatnot), volunteered to work holidays and the occassion night. filled in for others when they needed time off, and earned a lot of paid time off. I started using some of it and ended up losing the 2/3 of the vacation/sick time I *earned* when I lost my job. Not the most fun thing in the world, although legally I dont necessarily get any of it...

So sometimes there is no difference between sick time and vacation.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: e-phex
i haven't called in sick in three years..i'm the only one out of 100+ employees that has gone more then a year. every other tool i work with pulls the monday/friday sick day action. which pisses me off more then anything else.

i have so far gotten a pat on the back... and a 10 cent raise... and it has been so worth it

sarcasm.....

why don't i call in sick...... because colds, are nothing, the flu... bahh nothing... and the most important thing.. nobody does my job the right way(aka the way i do it)

i will not call in sick then have to pay the price for a week after some tool gums up the works! stupid people make me NOT CALL IN SICK.

Maybe they gum up the works when you call in so that you won't call in anymore. Now who's stupid?

 

[trmiv]

Originally posted by: dquan97
Benefits? Vacation time? Sick leave? the place where I work dont even have those! When I was sick -> No pay

Me too.