shuttle xpc overheating with barton 2500+?

[ZippyDan]

got SN45g

it was running for over a week with no problem running normal programs

played a game on it for the first time for about 2 hours, and then it suddenly shut off.

red led inside indicates CPU overheated (according to manual)

i thought the shuttle could handle this... otherwise its useless? how good is heat protection on barton/shuttle mb combo? could my cpu have been damaged?

final note, the shuttle was a refurb from newegg, but came in like-new condition. so... is it possible that it's mishandling the heat detection and thats why it was returned?

suggestions would be cool. thx

~Zippy!

 

[Mingon]

they do run slightly toasty, I added a 1u cooler to the top of my ice block - that helped

 

[John]

I would clean the cpu core & heatsink of any thermal compound, apply some ASIII or Ceramique to the cpu core, and reseat the heatpipe cooler. There is no reason why you should be overheating w/ a 2500+.

 

[Jiggz]

Nope, the CPU should still be alright. Try rebooting again and if it post you know the CPU is still OK. As soon as you see it post go shut down and follow what John said. If it still shuts down after playing your games, try running the unit without the case cover just to see if you are getting enough cooling air into the system. If it doesn't shut down with the cover off you need to invest on case fans.

 

[ZippyDan]

thx

what is a 1u cooler?

i used ASIII on the CPU when i installed it

running without case on is a good idea

i always thought adding some extra fans would be a good idea... but the point is that from what ive read about the XPC i shouldnt HAVE to

~Zippy!

 

[SkaarjMaster]

Not surprised that small cube is overheating. Get a mid-tower or full-tower! Just kidding. Maybe try reapplying the ArticSilver3. Did you apply only a very thin layer on the CPU die, then only a square inch to the heatsink and then put together? That's the way I was told to do it; a credit card works well not only for this, but also removing the thermal pad from the heatsink beforehand. Maybe some more people with cubes can help you. Good Luck!

 

[ZippyDan]

i only apply a very thin layer to the cpu die itself

considering the shuttle's screw-on heatsink system (all screws are well tightened), and the fact that the computer runs fine for days as long as i dont play games, im not sure how it could be a contact issue....

more info btw: its got 40gb (thin) maxtor 7200 rpm, floppy, liteon 52x cd-rw, pny gf4 ti4200 128mb 8x, and kingston 512mb pc2700 ram

~Zippy!

 

[SkaarjMaster]

I was told when I built my system about a year and a half ago to not only put a thin layer on the CPU die, but also a thin square-inch layer on the heatsink. Try this and see what happens. Also, at what temperature is it set to shutoff at?

 

[Mingon]

Check the cutout in the bios, its sometimes set to 55c, which is quite low really - move it to 62-65ish. Make sure the fan on the ICE pipe is sucking air into the case not blowing out, that can help. A 1U cooler is used in servers, it is approx 40-50mm tall, I then used soem thermal epoxy to glue this onto the top of the ice heatpipe block. If you do this change the mobo header to 2 and have the fans on 1&3 so they run can use the fan speedstep.

 

[ZippyDan]

i dont even see a place to change the cutout in the bios

according to bios... CPU temp is just about rock solid at 49 degrees. of course, ive no idea what temp its at when game is going. i made one change... turned off smart fan and just set it to blow at full rpm all the time.

so is 49 about normal for a comp thats just turned on? well er its been on a good 5 minutes and its still at 49.

~Zippy!

 

[ZippyDan]

ok, about 25 minutes later, bios temp shows 52 degrees. at 30 minutes its now about 53 degrees

~Zippy!

 

[Markfw]

That sounds fine for stock. The problem could be the video card heating up the inside of the case, which in turn heats up the CPU more to ???? Case cooling ?

 

[ZippyDan]

sure. but i cant believe im the only person who has ever used a PNY GF4 Ti4200 in a Shuttle and played games? i mean... Shuttles may run hot, but they shouldnt be overheating or else they wouldnt be selling any.

btw... now up to 55 degrees

~Zippy!

 

[Mingon]

try running with the case off to see if that helps. I continued up with the holes on the side of the case, in a sort of upside down T shape so I had more holes near the graphics card (was also a ti 4200).

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Did you use the shim that came with it? If so don't! it can prevent proper contact between the core and heatsink. Also, do you have the enhance or ACHME power supply? I have the SN45G with a 2400+@2.16ghz*Ceramique* 1.7v, ACHME PSU, 2x256mb Corsair VS 2700DDR DC-DDR synch mode using a eVGA Personal Cinema and it runs like a jewel. I can run it for hrs playing DIVX and DVD then pop in Ghost Recon or Hulk and keep right on going smooth as silk.

 

[SkaarjMaster]

So, 55 degrees and no gaming yet? That's not too bad. Basically, for cooling you try to keep it under 60 degrees C if you can. Once you've achieved this, then you shoot for under 50 degrees C, but under 60 should be fine. You just need to find out a way to reset the alarm or shutdown to go off at a different temperature like 65 degrees or maybe even 70 degrees C. Do you have any computer geek friends that might be able to come over and take a look? I'm out of ideas.