Shuttle AN35N Ultra Sound and General question

SEAL62505

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I finally upgraded to ddr and got a Shuttle AN35N Ultra board (nforce2 - without sound storm audio). I had been using a Santa Cruz. Are they about the same in performace and quality, or should I disable the onboard audio and go with the santa cruz?

Also, should I be installing additional drivers besides the nforce driver? Everything seems to work, but do I need to grab the latest audio drivers or anything?

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The Santa Cruz is superior to the Realtek ALC650 in audio quality and even though I haven't looked up the numbers I'm fairly certain the CPU usage will be lower with the Santa Cruz too.
 

SEAL62505

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Is the only benefit (for audio) in MCP-T dolby digital output? If so, if you don't use a decoder, would a Santa Cruz still be better?
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mechBgon

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I don't know what the Santa Cruz sounds like, but other added features of MCP-T are the Firewire capability and the dual-NIC feature.

Maybe I should add that I've had MCP and MCP-T boards and really can't tell the difference in gaming situations (I use headphones, if that is relevant). I have the AN35N Ultra at home for my gaming system and it seems satisfactory enough for what I do (mostly Mechwarrior4 with occasional UT2003 Demo binges).
 

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Best bet for you is to try out both using your normal speakers/headphones and let your ears tell you which is better. For myself, I use a stereo pair of bookshelf speakers and a receiver for my normal sound, thus I never use digital output or more than two channel audio. When I game I use headphones. I have a number of computers and the onboard sound on some of them sounds just fine to me. On others, sound has static, is crackly or picks up mouse/HDD noises, thus I use PCI sound cards. Doesn't really matter which sound chip used (mostly ALC, some CMI) or which chipset, or even which motherboard manufacturer, just that some implementations on particular boards are crappy. For instance, my Abit VH6T has two channel sound (I think with ALC201) that sounds perfectly fine. My Abit IS7 has some fancy 5.1 sound with digital in/out, but the sound picks up mouse movement and hard drive seeks (other people have experienced this with the IS7). My Epox 8RDA+ (with MCP-T) sounds just fine, until the system warms up during gameplay, then the sound will start lagging a few seconds behind the gameplay and also crackle a bit until eventually the sound dies totally until I reboot. I've reduced this effect quite a bit by putting a Zalman heatsink on the Southbridge and using a Zalman fan bracket with an NMB fan pointed down on it (this in a case with very good airflow). The Southbridge on this board would otherwise get burning hot to the touch. My other Epox, an 8RDA (MCP -no- T) has even worse sound. From a cold start the sound crackles. I picked up the board used so maybe the Southbridge overheated and fried the sound. My Dell Inspiron 1100 notebook has a bit of noticeable hiss and crackle with good speakers - I noticed when trying to use it for playing stuff through my TV and with audio hooked up to my home theater system.