Shuttle AN35N Ultra 400 - Can't run memory set at strict timings?

Budarow

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I'm looking at picking up this board because it's inexpensive and apparently stable under most conditions EXCEPT the board APPEARS to have problems when using GOOD memory with strict memory timings.

Here's some text from a review of this board from Nexus.net regarding the above observations.

Nexus.net: "Here's where it gets interesting. We tried the AN35N with 2 pre-tested sticks of Corsair's excellent XMS3500 RAM. Not only have these sticks run as a pair at DDR-400 with 2-6-2-2 timings, they have done so with default volts. This has been tested on a number of cross-platform motherboards from various manufacturers. Imagine our surprise, then, when the board failed to load a fresh copy of Windows XP Professional with these timings (we always install the OS with relatively relaxed timings). Raising the voltage to the maximum 2.7v didn't cure our stability problems. Using another pre-tested pair of Mushkin EMS PC3500 modules didn't help either. Using any number of high-performance PC3200+ modules resulted in almost instant crashing when loading the OS. However, relaxing the memory timings to 2-3-3-7 cured all ailments. It appears as if the board is applying some odd latencies when set to 2-2-2-6 in BIOS. To confuse matters a little more, running at 166FSB caused no problems whatsoever, even with the tightest latencies. The sample board also had a problem restarting from 200FSB upwards. It was even money whether it would reboot correctly or not. In its defence, it did power-up perfectly each and every time."

Any comments on the above review observations? I've searched the various message boards at AMDMB.com. NForcers.com, here, etc. and there doesn't appear to be much discussion on this issue.

Thanks for your input.


 

Budarow

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Well...I've done more searching (Tom's Hardware, Nexus, etc.) and found that many of the mobos based on the nForce2 400 Ultra chipset have stability problems running very good brands of memory with strict timings. Also, it appears that there's not a significant loss in performance. It seems like the Shuttle board requires more relaxed memory timings than some of the other boards, but with a $60 to $75 price tag, it's a hard deal to beat even if the memory timings have to be somewhat relaxed.
 

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Thanks for the info dude. I bought this board a little while back and am still playing around with the memory settings. Tried to find that link you mentioned but haven't had any luck (any chance you could post it). I've been pretty happy with the board so far. Not as fast as my old Soyo Dragon Plus, but then again, my old Soyo would only take a Paly 2100 tops. Loaded the new bios (very easy) and the new chip drivers and everything seems pretty stable. Will try some higher mem settings this weekend. Only trouble with the setup was I had to grind off the edge of my heat sink to get around the capacators (I have the big Alpha). Looking forward to getting the Barton 3000 (400) later in the year when the prices drop. Not to sure when the best time would be to buy memory though seeing as the prices are rising. Good luck with your decision.
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I have this board and a 512stick of Corsair PC3200XMS and It randomly reboots when running cas2
I will double check my ram timings tonight to make sure, but it think its running 2-3-3-8
 

Budarow

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mechBgon,

I haven't read any indepth articles on Ram memory lately, but it seems that a lot of people say that a higher FBS speed leads to more performance than faster timings. I could be wrong though.
 

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Originally posted by: Budarow
mechBgon,

I haven't read any indepth articles on Ram memory lately, but it seems that a lot of people say that a higher FBS speed leads to more performance than faster timings. I could be wrong though.
I agree, high FSB/memory speed is the cake, and tight timings are just the frosting :cool:

 

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My ram timing is set to 2-3-3-8 @ 200mhz
I tried to run 2-2-2-7 and the system restarted itself
So I guess there is some type of issue on that, but 2-3-3-8 feels fast enough for me :shrug: