Shoutcasting music into retail locations...

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I was reading a tech magazine for retail businesses and it was discussing advantages of DSL and Frame relays.

One thing that some businesses were doing was shoutcasting music into their stores to alleviate the need to pay for subscription based services that have for years been the alternative. I got to looking at our bills, and each of my 30+ stores is being charged somewhere between $35 and $55 a month for these music services. That doesn't include the hardware and install fees that you pay up front when the system is put in. Just some rough math shows that we are paying out roughly $14,500 a year just in music costs!

That could buy a WHOLE lot of CD's and storage space. I've already got a T1 line in the corporate office, and most of my stores have a DSL line coming in. If I buy all of the CD's, and then shoutcast them out to the stores, is there any legal rammifacations that I would be responsible for?

I've looked over the case, and cd's of about 10 different albums I have laying around here, and all of them talk about illegal duplication. Shoutcasting an Mp3 of a CD that I bought, to stores that *technically* (the money for the cd's comes from the stores) purchased would be legal wouldn't it?

It's a thin line to tread, but I'm serious about persuing it. All of my stores are already wired for it. All I need to do is run an RCA cable from the sound cards to the receivers in the offices. Hell, I could even put in a little unix box that worked as a stand alone winamp terminal.

Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?
 

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The only thing I could see is it being considered as broadcasting the music without permission.

But I'm not a lawyer. :)
 

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It's a touchy situation. The locations that would pay for the cd's are lumped under one company, and all expenses are paid out of one big pot. The music that would be played would be paid for, and broadcast in locations that purchased the music.

It's sort of like a bowling alley or a bar that plays CD's for their music...it's just that instead of having the "cd player" on site, it would be a couple hundred miles away.
 

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What the RIAA has to say.
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I work for an A/V integrator, we do store installs on occasion. The law says that you need to license the music, so if that's the route you want to go then that's fine. It'll propably add to your costs in the long run to do your own licensing. It's always been my understanding that letting a distribution company handle bulk music licensing is the cheapest way.

I think your using the cheapest legal solution currently. In mass distribution simply purchasing the CD doesn't give the right to replay that content in public.
 

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Yeh, it would be over a VPN connection. I guess I really see it as no different than how a bar or bowling alley play music inside their locations. It's not really a public broadcast. The stores are privately owned and operated.

It's not like I'm broadcasting it to a public park or golf course.

It's tricky. Maybe I'll try and find a contact for the author of the article and see if they can shed any legal insight on it.
 

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The big problem is that it's difficult to come to a legal decision on what exactly broadcasting is. Is playing a CD on a boombox in a bus stop broadcasting? Everyone who walks by can hear it.

...maybe that's why older, public domain, music is so popular in elevators. Thanks to the good folks at Disney (a.k.a. Congress), kiss the public domain system goodbye.