Shouldn't All Heatsink Mounts Be Standardized For Size

[Luckyboy1]

Ok folks, we've got the entire plumbing industry on standard sizes. Same with lumber and same with pharmacutical standards and on and on. Now what's really so hard about making PC heatsink mounts all a standard size? Granted, for laptops and micro applications, every mm of space is critical, but not so in even a mid sized case. So for desktop PC's, why do we have a mount for AMD's and another for Intel and even more retarded, not even standards within the same company! Intel is happy to make a weird, nonstandard heatsink mount for Dell computers or any other big client. I really think the only thing stopping us from having standard sized mounts is us acting like so many sheep going to slaughter. We usually won't accept a nonstandard power supply and that's far more complicated than a heatsink assembly!

I'm not saying have one size mount for all heatsinks, but how about having a standard size for GPU's, CPU's?

Just think how much less things would cost if this was done.

Comments? Be brutal!

 

[JeffMD]

Luckyboy.. a brief romp through history will show you that intel has allways been restrictive on crosscompatability designs. From motherboard pinouts, chipsets, and even RAM. The HSF issue is no surprise.

 

[Luckyboy1]

Well, the surprising part to me is that we put up with all this nonsense.

 

[potato28]

Originally posted by: Luckyboy1
Well, the surprising part to me is that we put up with all this nonsense.

Intel has been doing this for such a long time... and most people dont make their own pc's, so theyre oblivious to the fittings. We have to until ma and pa start building their own pc's

 

[Luckyboy1]

Well, it is a very good point until you get a good gander at the food chain as far as what consumers want out of a PC and the folks building their own set the tempo for the sheep that follow. We complain about so many things more trivial and the industry to one degree or the next responds, so why not put some pressure on this issue?

 

[imported_Seer]

For once, I agree with you that it sucks it's not standard. But there are good reasons for this; namely, 99% of computer users dont give a ******.

 

[Luckyboy1]

Maybe if folks understood the issue a bit more, they'd care a bit more. I see people post nausiating messes that amount to discussions over less than $10.00 on such issues as video cards and power supplies, yet the costs involed in having a billion plus heatsink configurations served seems to pass by unnnoticed. All I'm saying is maybe it's high time it stopped sliding under our collective radar, that's all.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: Luckyboy1
Well, it is a very good point until you get a good gander at the food chain as far as what consumers want out of a PC and the folks building their own set the tempo for the sheep that follow. We complain about so many things more trivial and the industry to one degree or the next responds, so why not put some pressure on this issue?

I don't think this is true. The homebrew market is seperate and distinct from the stock PC market. They're driven by completely different wants and needs. As for forcing Intel and AMD to a standard, I don't think that's going to happen.

 

[Operandi]

Trying to make a standard mounting system would be completely pointless. CPUs are under constant evolution and because of that so are the cooling solutions. Three years ago 60mm fans where the standard, go back even further and there were no fans.

Bottom line is any standard developed now would be inappropriate for future CPUs and very short lived.

 

[Luckyboy1]

Here's the food chain as I perceive it and by the way, so does Dell and AC Neilson and a few other folks out there...

Ma and Pa want a new PC to go with the remodelling job on the outhouse. They ask oddly enough... and man is this a scary thought until you understand that these children that you spit on as they try and change their world, are immune to your consultations, they are quite aware of what they are going through! Thanks David!

You guessed it, they ask their own teenaged kids! And man, you thought you were lost! All kidding aside, they get a quazi and evolving sort of politically correct answer because, before answering, their kid has already spoken with...

The pimply faced kid at school who just got the new and very cool (whatever that means!) X-Bot! That kid can immediatley give an authorative and wowing answer to the question at hand because he's already spoken with...

The dark and greasy haired goth kid who plays first person Sh!tter games all day instead of chasing Suzie Rottencrotche like the rest of us! This kid mostly communicates in grunts and clicks like Dolphins and you gotta Google for the non-technical term for every third word you at least can make out through all the sonar noise! This kid owes all his grunts and clicks to visiting a few serious flight sim sites where people who are cursed with wives and kids try to burry their cursed lives inside a game!

 

[Luckyboy1]

Are you trying to tell me the size of CPU's is changing like by inches at a time every 6 months? Gimme a break or at least try and pawn off a good quality lie because thinking I'm dumb enough to believe that poor of a lie is just plain ole insulting!

 

[HardWarrior]

Sorry Lucky, I don't see what any of this has to do with forcing Intel and AMD to a standard.

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: Luckyboy1
Are you trying to tell me the size of CPU's is changing like by inches at a time every 6 months? Gimme a break or at least try and pawn off a good quality lie because thinking I'm dumb enough to believe that poor of a lie is just plain ole insulting!

A standard should last at least a couple of years; if it's only good for 6 months it?s useless as a standard. A couple of years ago this was what a "standard" heatsink looked like, literally about half the size of what currently comes with a retail CPU.

 

[Luckyboy1]

Even with all that aside, I think not having a standard adds cost and confusion to the deal. In addition, those of us not stuck in the stone aged air days can just merily keep the high quality stuff we got instead of replacing it for some artificial or retarded reason.

If insisting on sticking with air, you can just buy one, copper, oversized maybe for needs now heatsink and save the extra landfill space on your next build.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: Luckyboy1
Even with all that aside, I think not having a standard adds cost and confusion to the deal. In addition, those of us not stuck in the stone aged air days can just merily keep the high quality stuff we got instead of replacing it for some artificial or retarded reason.

Confusion as in someone having to actually THINK every now and then? That's not confusion, it's choice. No one is demanding that anyone change what they have. If it means some much to have one, and only one mounting factor, those same people can just as easily ride out what they have to the bitter end. Who's to say whether changes in mounting schemes are "retarted or artificial?" Have you actually tried to contact AMD or Intel in regards to their choices? I for one WANT both companies to continue to experiment with their packages and mounting methods.

If insisting on sticking with air, you can just buy one, copper, oversized maybe for needs now heatsink and save the extra landfill space on your next build.

So, it isn't JUST Intel and AMD who are frosting you, it's the entire HSF industry? Again, no one is forcing anyone to buy anything they don't want.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Operandi

Originally posted by: Luckyboy1
Are you trying to tell me the size of CPU's is changing like by inches at a time every 6 months? Gimme a break or at least try and pawn off a good quality lie because thinking I'm dumb enough to believe that poor of a lie is just plain ole insulting!

A standard should last at least a couple of years; if it's only good for 6 months it?s useless as a standard. A couple of years ago this was what a "standard" heatsink looked like, literally about half the size of what currently comes with a retail CPU.

Hey, I think that's the stock HSF that came with the Athlon XP 2500+ I used in a friend's system.