Should we target some MACs for recruiting?

[Train]

I figured this is an area we are not too strong. I say since MACs are great at RC5, and the people on this forum are mostly into PCs, we could gain some serious crackage if we play this right. He he, maybe a "Friendly" challenge to a MAC site, a challenge of PC power, you know any MAC user jumps on the oppurtunity to show that thier computer is just as good as a PC, then, after they start cracking, tell them how cool it would be if they joined Team AnandTech

 

[Kilowatt]

Good idea Train.

Maybe startup a "Mac Mini Team" within TeAm.

 

[Train]

I was wondering, Will your Klinux work on a Mac? or is it for x86 based systems only?

 

[Train]

Heres Some Linkage, you guys know the drill

TheMacJunkie.com
Forums:http://www.themacjunkie.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl

MacCentral.com
Forums:http://www.maccentral.com/forum/

 

[Kilowatt]

<< Will your Klinux work on a Mac? >>

Good question, I don't know, I don't have a yuck Mac to test on.
I wouldn't hold my breath though, Linux itself takes a different distro versions to run on Macs.

 

[BDawg]

I'm using my G3!

To bad we don't have any G4s at work that don't get used 24/7...

 

[Diffusion]

G3s, truthfully, seem to be only semi decent at RC5, mine, which are on 24/7 (2 G3 400s, 1 G3 333 (Right now its offline, it has about 4000 blocks to flush), 1 G3 366, and 1 G3 220) don't even break 2000 blocks a day very often, and thats with a pentium 2 350 helping them along with a G4 (Upgrading to OS 9, maybe it will stop acting like a G3 finally... grr...). Pretty annoying, and if anything is done on them the block rates drop through the floor!

 

[BurntKooshie]

G3's, when left alone (horrid OS not sharing properly....gaaaah!), they get 3.3kkeys/sec. Thats nearly athlon level. That's not &quot;semi-decent&quot; IMO....

 

[Adul]

Aren't the g4 super decent at it

 

[toph99]

i was trying to get a MacII ci running(what a joke ) but the person who gave it to me forgot the disk-lock password, so i can't get it to work. would have been interesting to see how long it took to do a block, lol

 

[narzy]

I can setup a miniteam like Macs@avworks.net

Team Name: Mac Power!

lets see if their macs can outpace our entire team!
and give them stats on their message boards, and pray to god they dont figure out how to create their own team!

 

[Train]

great idea narzy, we should get to work on this

 

[Diffusion]

Yeah, 3.3kkeys a MHZ, but they top out at 500mhz (IBM had some at 900mhz but they never reached production in macs). Therefore, the most you can get, out of a top of the line G3, is 1.6mkeys. That would be great if they were availible at high speeds, but they are not, so all in all, G3s are not good. A recent P3 or Athlon will toast one. G4s are pretty nice, but G3s are not.

 

[Cabelguy]

Well as a mac user I wish you luck in getting them. Although I have to admin a dual proc. G4/500 is a very nice cracking machine. On the one I was playing with I was getting about 8.9-9.0 Mkey/s, personally I am hoping to get that back soon it really helped my key rate. Also the G3 isn't the greatest cracker my G3/300 gets about 990 Mkey/s, and if I configure the OS to the bare minimum I can get 1.01 Mkey/s but I don't think that is worth it.

Anyways, have fun.

Cabel

 

[dennilfloss]

I have been asking Mac owners too right from the start. So far, I'm only scoring 33% success with them (i.e. I got 1 out of 3).

 

[Eug]

OK, not RC5, but I've been trying to figure out how to do OGR on my two orphaned Macs, since neither are networked and the rest of the dept. is PC. I can't even figure out how to install the software. They have stuffit expander, anything I download from a PC is essentially gobbledygook to it. The other issue is flushing. I can do sneakernet, but I'm just wondering if my PC is going to like the buff-outs. (I've done sneakernet before and it's not a big deal flushing using a client on another computer with the same OS class, but here I'm wondering about file incompatibilities.)

Not huge cracking power but it just seems like it's a waste to have them sit there and do nothing. Mac 7200 and a Mac 8600 running I think OS 8 and OS 8.6 respectively. The other problem is I have no idea where any of the install discs are either.

By the way, if I just got some sort of splitter cable, how could I share my networking access. The guy who used to run these did that with his PowerPC Mac laptop, but he's no longer in this dept.

 

[GSmith]

I have RC5 running on a pair of G3s (one at home, one at work). Since I work for a school district, I have access to several hundred Macs (and a few hundred more PCs). I'm the only tech, and also the assistant network admin, so right now I'm buried in work. I will eventually get around to assimilating at least a dozen G3s, but it probably wont be until after Christmas break. Right now I'm handling a major networking project in the district (one computer per classroom connected to the internet) and someone at the high school heard we had Office 2000, so now everyone wants it on every PC in their classroom (although the only reason they can give me is &quot;because its new&quot. Never mind the fact that it takes an hour to install on their slow ass P166 with 1G HD. I'd love to just Ghost it, but they dont know how to save personal files to a floppy and then copy them back later for themselves. You'd think a computer teacher could handle that kind of thing wouldn't you?

Oops, didnt mean to ramble on like that.

Worst part of running it on a Mac is the pitiful multi-tasking. When Dnet client slows down to give up cycles to another program, it never seems to go back to full speed.

 

[GSmith]

Eug,
Do your macs have, or can you get Ethernet adapters? If they dont have it, they arent cheap to get, but if they do, networking is easier to setup on a Mac than Win9x. File sharing and printer sharing with the PC is where the headaches start. I can walk you through it if you need it. You dont even have to reboot when you change IPs

Also, for anyone who is thinking of running dnet on a Mac, upgrade to OS 9.0.4 if you can. When I did that, it gave about a 20% keyrate boost over OS 8.6. Multi-tasking still kills the keyrate though. I'm wondering what OS X will do. Have to get the boss to order a Beta copy for me.

 

[Choralone]

The way I see it ANY addition, even only a couple hundred kkeys is good. It'll all start to add up quickly in the long run. A little here and a little there works for me.

 

[Adul]

GSmith, I salute you in your quest We hope to hear about it early next year

 

[Wellcky]

I can ask the Mac Admins at my College to see if I can get them cracking... I'll need a good reason to assimilate the systems there. Anyone got a good brief overview of the whole RC5 Projects.

I asked b4 but they just said no, because the systems there seem to crash quite often... darn those Intro to Mac students.. but I can try again.

12 G4 450mhz
5 G3 300mhz??
30 UMacs

Dont' know the speeds on the Umacs though .

[edit] Edited for Typos. [/edit]

 

[SSP]

Hey Wellcky, just the G3 &amp; G4's alone can produce ~16,714 blocks. (provided that they run 24/7)

 

[Ken g6]

Wanna try getting them hooked on OGR instead? It's mathematical research, and it performs very well, relatively, on G3's.

G4's should really do RC5, though.

Edit: &quot;Umacs&quot;??? Is it possible that's a mistyping of &quot;IMacs&quot;? IMacs are G3's, too.

 

[Rendus]

The klinux disk wouldn't work with a Mac without serious modification (the kernel is compiled for x86, all the tools are compiled for x86, and the dnetc client on the disk is x86).



<< Edit: &quot;Umacs&quot;??? Is it possible that's a mistyping of &quot;IMacs&quot;? IMacs are G3's, too. >>


UMacs were one of the few Apple clone box makers. They're probably all just PowerPC, not a G3 or G4. Never know though. (They were quite upgradable)

 

[Eug]

GSmith, thanks.

What would I need? I'm on an NT4 network. I have administrator rights for the PC but if truth be known I have no idea what I'm doing. They just gave me administrator rights simply because I install lots of junk and they figured I wouldn't destroy my OS. I don't want to prove them wrong.

The 7200/120 PowerMac is currently sitting in my office unused and it does have a 10BaseT port supposedly. The PC is hooked up via 100BaseT I believe. I can check into all the specs if necessary. I have none of the install discs, but if I can't find them I may just expense a copy of OS 9. The 8600 Mac is currently being used in another room unfortunately and I can't move it just yet. It also has 10BaseT port.