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Should we start a program to allow Prisoners to shorten their sentences if they opt to go to Iraq?

Hmm.. are we talking about forced recruitment of inmates? I don't think thats a good idea. Our military of mostly comprised of trained individuals who VOLUNTEERED to serve their country. Throwing some convicted criminals in the mix, who don't want to be there, and givng everyone guns just doesn't seem like the best idea to me.
 
No, we should start a program to make sure those on death row have their sentence carried out sooner rather than later.

 
NO! Our all-volunteer army ensures that one will serve willingly and with a knowledge of the risks involved. If we were to do as you suggested, not only would our military be looked upon as an army of convicts, but they would perform less than stelar, as they have no motivation to do well.
 
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Hmm.. are we talking about forced recruitment of inmates? I don't think thats a good idea. Our military of mostly comprised of trained individuals who VOLUNTEERED to serve their country. Throwing some convicted criminals in the mix, who don't want to be there, and givng everyone guns just doesn't seem like the best idea to me.

"allow"

ONLY if they volunteer
 
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
NO! Our all-volunteer army ensures that one will serve willingly and with a knowledge of the risks involved. If we were to do as you suggested, not only would our military be looked upon as an army of convicts, but they would perform less than stelar, as they have no motivation to do well.

Seems like you are a bit too utopian.. take notice that many 1000s of ex soldiers have been called up and FORCED to go back and fight.. sure it is in their contract.. but they are still being forced.


When they run out of ready reserves then who will be next?
 
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Hmm.. are we talking about forced recruitment of inmates? I don't think thats a good idea. Our military of mostly comprised of trained individuals who VOLUNTEERED to serve their country. Throwing some convicted criminals in the mix, who don't want to be there, and givng everyone guns just doesn't seem like the best idea to me.

:thumbsup:

 
Originally posted by: amdfanboy
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Hmm.. are we talking about forced recruitment of inmates? I don't think thats a good idea. Our military of mostly comprised of trained individuals who VOLUNTEERED to serve their country. Throwing some convicted criminals in the mix, who don't want to be there, and givng everyone guns just doesn't seem like the best idea to me.

:thumbsup:

Depends on what type of criminal you choose ... if you are the type to lump them all into one then you have a problem.
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: amdfanboy
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Hmm.. are we talking about forced recruitment of inmates? I don't think thats a good idea. Our military of mostly comprised of trained individuals who VOLUNTEERED to serve their country. Throwing some convicted criminals in the mix, who don't want to be there, and givng everyone guns just doesn't seem like the best idea to me.

:thumbsup:

Depends on what type of criminal you choose ... if you are the type to lump them all into one then you have a problem.

And what type you be willing to hand guns to?
 
Haven't there been enough abuses...putting violent people in positions of power is questionable at best.
 
Not a bad idea, though many prisoners might not make good soldiers. Especially those with problems towards Authority figures.
 
I think it is a good idea. Not for violent crimes, but our prisions are overflowing. Those petty criminals could make a worthy contribution to society again.

I know that Japanese shamed samurai's had an option sometimes of instead of committing seppuku, they could be on the front line of battles. They often were the hardest and craziest fighters because they knew they were going to die and it was their last chance to regain honor.

 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Would the officer who's forced to be in charge of them be very happy?
You assume he is "already" happy?
Are you assuming there's no happy army officers?
Are you also assuming they are happy to be in Iraq? Just jubilant
I'll assume by your sarcasm that you know the officers that rotate in and out of Iraq are all unhappy
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: amdfanboy
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Hmm.. are we talking about forced recruitment of inmates? I don't think thats a good idea. Our military of mostly comprised of trained individuals who VOLUNTEERED to serve their country. Throwing some convicted criminals in the mix, who don't want to be there, and givng everyone guns just doesn't seem like the best idea to me.

:thumbsup:

Depends on what type of criminal you choose ... if you are the type to lump them all into one then you have a problem.

Hmm. My thought is that someone is in jail for being found guilty of an act of criminal behavoir. Which shows that he/she currently has problems with authority and following the "rules." Which shows that they couldn't be a responsibly citizen. Which implies that they do NOT need to be given a gun and be responsible for the lives of those around him.

Out armed forces don't need cannon fodder - those days are gone. They need willing and able volunteers who can be trained and trusted. Just seems bad for morale, to me.
 
You youngsters remember the movie Dirty Dozen

The only difference is that recruits in the movie were existing military personnel.
 
Bush was convicted of Drunk Driving.... that is a criminal act and could very well lead to vehicular homicide


Weren't people actually given the opportunity to choose jail or military in the past?
 
Originally posted by: dahunan

Weren't people actually given the opportunity to choose jail or military in the past?

The option nowadays seems to be: leave the state or go to jail.
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Bush was convicted of Drunk Driving.... that is a criminal act and could very well lead to vehicular homicide

Weren't people actually given the opportunity to choose jail or military in the past?
Hmm.. well I suppose if he had the option of staying in jail or finishing out his sentence as Commander in Chief, you'd have a point. 😉

(Not that he actually served time, did he? I have a DWI on my record from when I was 19. I spent 1 night in jail and was sentenced to 80 hours community service, $1500 fine, and loss of license for 6 months.)
 
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