Should unemployment be extended beyond 99 weeks?

DCal430

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Each week countless Americans are running out of their 99 week unemployment benefit, and going into extreme poverty. They have no more income, and no more savings. They are unable to pay for their mortgage or rent, so they end up on the streets, in a ditch, under a bridge, or in a back alley. Something needs to be done to help these people. They want jobs, and want to work, but their just aren't jobs available to most of the unemployed. I wonder how many people die each week who recently ran out of unemployment benefits.
 

MotF Bane

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I wonder how many people die each week who recently ran out of unemployment benefits.

If you wonder, then do your research before posting this thread. Otherwise it's mindless speculation at best, and trolling at worst.
 

DCal430

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If you wonder, then do your research before posting this thread. Otherwise it's mindless speculation at best, and trolling at worst.

The point isn't that people are dying. The point is countless people are ending up in a ditch, under a bridge, or in some back alley because they cannot afford to pay rent or their mortgage. This includes children too. We have a steep rise in children who are on the streets (not by choice) because their parents lost their jobs. I am seeing more people begging with children each day.
 

Attic

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There are those that continue to sit on unemployment because they can not face the reality that their value in the working world is not what it used to be.

A year on unemployment is enough time to be left to your own accord. After a year unemployment benefits need to drop significantly and to a point where minimum wage jobs become an attractive alternative as opposed to a pay cut. I'd even suggest adding unemployment to an individuals low paying job for a certain period of time to incentivise some form of production from the individual or at the very least tie the checks into volunteer work. You can't argue that volunteer work is unavailable.
 
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Fenixgoon

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no.

sometimes i wonder if unemployment really should be like the WPA was in the 30's. people aren't just collecting money for nothing, they're doing something. granted it would make job searching more difficult.
 

DCal430

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So nothing should be done to help the women and children who ending up in ditches, under bridges, and in back alleys because they cannot afford to live anymore?
 

MotF Bane

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So nothing should be done to help the women and children who ending up in ditches, under bridges, and in back alleys because they cannot afford to live anymore?

99 weeks. Almost two whole YEARS to find another job, cut expenses, make other plans.... no.

Stop with the emotional appeals, it's bullshit and you know it, troll.
 

sMiLeYz

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At some point unemployment checks have to end, the money spent on further unemployment should just be redirected to creating a jobs program or some kind of fiscal stimulus.
 

PhoKingGuy

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So nothing should be done to help the women and children who ending up in ditches, under bridges, and in back alleys because they cannot afford to live anymore?

Stop buying 5 dollar a half gallon milk and 20 dollar a bottle balsamic vinegar and hand out money on the street corner.
 

CycloWizard

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Can you point to a single case where someone who lost their unemployment benefits is now in any of the dire situations you claimed are now commonplace? Shouldn't be hard - it would make a great news story.
 

ShawnD1

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The point isn't that people are dying. The point is countless people are ending up in a ditch, under a bridge, or in some back alley because they cannot afford to pay rent or their mortgage.
Isn't this what welfare is for? Sell yo house, sell yo kids, sell yo car, get on da welfare.

In most first world countries we talk about welfare being important. We need to prevent people from being homeless, we need to keep them fed, we need to keep them educated. People in the US are literally talking about keeping unemployed people in houses and cars. What the fuck. Seriously. Not just living in a modern building but owning a modern building is now a human right in the US, apparently. Yeah good luck with that.
 

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SockHaser

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When I was cashiering at Target the other day, I saw a ton of people buy ribeye steaks, tenderloin, and other luxury food goods with food stamps. Most of these people get too much free stuff as it is.
 

ShawnD1

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Here is a news article saying as unemployment benefits run out, homeless increases. That many people are homeless because they ran out of unemployment.

http://atomstack.com/when-unemployment-benefits-run-out-homeless-in-a-tent-city/227130
Well then it's time to complain to your state government that welfare is not doing its job.

White people bitch about black people completely relying on welfare for decades at a time. If that's true, then wtf is the problem here? Get on welfare, be not-homeless, quit bitching about owning a house being a right, and keep your spirits up while you look for work.
I'm as left wing socialist marxist as it gets on this forum and even I think 2 years of unemployment (not the same as welfare) is total bullshit.
 

YoungGun21

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When I was cashiering at Target the other day, I saw a ton of people buy ribeye steaks, tenderloin, and other luxury food goods with food stamps. Most of these people get too much free stuff as it is.

This.

People are abusing the system.
 

DCal430

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When I was cashiering at Target the other day, I saw a ton of people buy ribeye steaks, tenderloin, and other luxury food goods with food stamps. Most of these people get too much free stuff as it is.

For every so person who buys so called "luxury" food goods, there is another who has to sell their body in back alleys to afford food for their children.
 

YoungGun21

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For every so person who buys so called "luxury" food goods, there is another who has to sell their body in back alleys to afford food for their children.

Oh really? Is it a 1:1 ratio? The amount of people collecting unemployment and selling their bodies for money is exactly the same as the amount of people collecting unemployment who are abusing the system.

Tell us more.
 

ShawnD1

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For every so person who buys so called "luxury" food goods, there is another who has to sell their body in back alleys to afford food for their children.
LOL yeah sure.

If it ever comes to that, I'll say a bunch of weird shit to my prostitute while we're doing it.
"If you have a son or daughter, I'd love to take them for a spin. I'll pay double."
 

dmcowen674

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Each week countless Americans are running out of their 99 week unemployment benefit, and going into extreme poverty. They have no more income, and no more savings. They are unable to pay for their mortgage or rent, so they end up on the streets, in a ditch, under a bridge, or in a back alley.

Something needs to be done to help these people.

They want jobs, and want to work, but their just aren't jobs available to most of the unemployed.

I wonder how many people die each week who recently ran out of unemployment benefits.

Why do you care if they die?

What do you mean something has to be done?

The jobs were sent overseas, perhaps ship them out of the country?
 

ShawnD1

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So food should be labeled "Luxury food" for the rich and "Lowlife food" for all others?

And you would not allow anyone other than the rich to get the "Luxury food"?
Um yes?

It has always been that way. Both of my parents have said that they rarely had beef as kids because bovine has always been more expensive than pig.
I always had fairly good food as a kid, but lots of my childhood friends had never eaten or heard of t-bone steak. That's one of the more expensive cuts on a cow.
I've never been able to afford real bacon bits. I just get the cheap soy ones. Real bacon bits are soft and chewy, fake bacon bits are dry and hard.
I really like the taste of chocolate soy milk but I never buy it because it's twice as expensive as cow milk.
As a kid, almost everything in the house was no name brand. No name pasta, no name ketchup, no name mustard, no name ice cream. We didn't even have real ice cream. Real ice cream is actual cream, which makes it similar to butter, so the price is also similar to butter. Fake ice cream is nowhere near as expensive and you can get a gallon of it for maybe $3, but it's also not as tasty.

Yes there is such a thing as rich people food.
 

SockHaser

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So food should be labeled "Luxury food" for the rich and "Lowlife food" for all others?

And you would not allow anyone other than the rich to get the "Luxury food"?

People can buy all the luxury foods they want when they pay for it themselves. You don't need a 20 dollar steak to live comfortablely. It is a sad state of affairs when people can buy $300 in food with food stamps and then buy another couple hundred dollars in other crap.