Discussion Should the USA become a Theocracy? To all Religious Republicans here. Yes or NO?

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Vic

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Quotes are messed up so I'll have to do it Moonie style!

Crashtech says "So the right isn't a thing either, then? Or is it okay to "other" selectively?"

Welshbloke says "the right and the left are both things, but there's a huge spectrum of thinking and policies on each side. Saying "leftists" just lumps people like Biden in with people like Tr
Why is Biden such an extremist?
 

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crashtech

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So you're saying that 54% of Republicans supporting Christian nationalism is a 'silly lefty fever dream?'
Yaknow... I might actually believe that if I didn't have an FB account.
At least I want to make the point that I will oppose anything of the kind, which is anathema to the First Amendment. My approach to political philosophy might be right of center, but it's firmly grounded in the concept of a secular government.
 

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At least I want to make the point that I will oppose anything of the kind, which is anathema to the First Amendment. My approach to political philosophy might be right of center, but it's firmly grounded in the concept of a secular government.
Thank you, your personal feels are duly noted as being among the 46% of Republicans who don't support Christian nationalism.
 

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He's a puppet. At this point, Biden's political philosophy has no meaning. He can't even reliably read a teleprompter.
I'm not sure that I'd agree with your diagnosis of his mental health but let's go with it.
I'd rather that a political leader listened to, and employed experts rather than this weird obsession some people have with the leader being some sort of expert on everything!
 
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I'm not sure that I'd agree with your diagnosis of his mental health but let's go with it.
I'd rather that a political leader listened to, and employed experts rather than this weird obsession some people have with the leader being some sort of expert on everything!
It's not a diagnosis of his mental health, it's from actual videos of his speeches, which I strongly believe are redacted by the mainstream media if you don't know what I'm talking about.
 

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Better that than a jackass who tried to make himself President for life.
Maybe. Although they have this saying about the devil you know, in this case the devil(s) we don't know are the ones pulling poor Joe's strings.
 

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I'm not sure that I'd agree with your diagnosis of his mental health but let's go with it.
I'd rather that a political leader listened to, and employed experts rather than this weird obsession some people have with the leader being some sort of expert on everything!
The conservative craving for a champion leads inexorably to religious tyranny. Even Rand's John Galt was a Messianic figure.
 
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It's not a diagnosis of his mental health, it's from actual videos of his speeches, which I strongly believe are redacted by the mainstream media if you don't know what I'm talking about.
That's missing the point I was making.
 

Vic

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Maybe. Although they have this saying about the devil you know, in this case the devil(s) we don't know are the ones pulling poor Joe's strings.
Let me know when he owns a hotel in DC that books out whole floors of rooms for months and months to foreign dignitaries who never stay there.
 

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Back on topic:

The USA should not become a theocracy, obviously, and anyone who thinks this is even a remote possibility should either write fiction or seek therapy.
 

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Maybe. Although they have this saying about the devil you know, in this case the devil(s) we don't know are the ones pulling poor Joe's strings.
Who do you think they might be and in what way do you think that it differs from other American political leaders?
 

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Back on topic:

The USA should not become a theocracy, obviously, and anyone who thinks this is even a remote possibility should either write fiction or seek therapy.
I mean there are a quite a few conservative policies that seem rooted in religious dogma!
 

Vic

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Back on topic:

The USA should not become a theocracy, obviously, and anyone who thinks this is even a remote possibility should either write fiction or seek therapy.
So we should we should just ignore the 54% of Republican who support America becoming a theocracy?
Go ahead and call me crazy, but I don't that's a good idea considering that theocracy and radical religious-based laws and rhetoric are what the Republican frontrunners are campaigning on.
 
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So we should we should just ignore the 54% of Republican who support America becoming a theocracy?
Go ahead and call me crazy, but I don't that's a good idea considering that theocracy and radical religious-based laws and rhetoric are what the Republican frontrunners are campaigning on.
Do you ignore radical elements of leftism as irrelevant to your beliefs, or do you embrace it all?
 

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Who do you think they might be and in what way do you think that it differs from other American political leaders?
Bad faith right-wing trolls always speak of some 'globalist elites' who secretly control liberal politics while ignoring the fact that the Republican party and the conservative agenda is almost wholly funded by aristocratic billionaires.
Gotta remember these people who can convince themselves that Musk is anti-globalist while Gigafactory Shanghai exists.
 
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Republican policies, maybe. I happen to think true conservatism should approach governance from a secular viewpoint.
Apologies. I did mean Republican policies there!
Is there an old school conservative political party in the US any more?
 

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Do you ignore radical elements of leftism as irrelevant to your beliefs, or do you embrace it all?
I think that the radical left has a much, much more tenuous grasp on American politics than the radical right.
And I say this as someone who you would probably consider part of the radical left.