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Should the states tighten driving requirements?

I see way to many idiots on the road today driving that by no means whatsoever should be driving. Case in point, this morning some moron was going too fast and took out 4 other cars who's drivers were not only doing the speed limit, but were also driving correctly. This ***hole decided that he wanted to take his half of the road out of the middle, lost it on a patch of ice at 2x's the speed limit and when the dust settled, his car, plus 4 others lay totaled on the road.

In Germany the requirements are so strict when it comes to getting a licence, it takes some people 6 to 9 months of classes and road time before they are allowed to drive or even have their own licence. Here in the US, if you're under 21, you take a 6 week drivers ed class that's perty much a joke and you've got a licence to drive the worlds most powerful legalized weapon. Over 21 and all you need is a birth certificate in many states. I'm not saying the federal government needs to step in on this. Actually, quite the contrary. They got their hands in too much stuff already.

What we need is to have much stricter driving laws, and we need to keep better tabs on drivers who are just learning, and for those who might have disabilities or age issues that would render them unsafe. Case in point, a young girl, probubly 16 or 17, brand new to driving, and she killed 2 people when she ran a red light at a local intersection last summer. She came out with little more than a bump on her head. When asked why she ran the red light, she was like "what red light?" Apparently she had been talking on her cell phone, putting on makeup, and not paying any attention to the road.

Driving is a privaledge, not a f'ing requirement of being an American, and people need to realize that. I have several ideas that might make the roads better, like yearly drivers testing for drivers 16-21, bi-annual for 21-25, and the reverse starting at age 55 on up for seniors. Physical and mental handycaps would have to be handled on a case to case basis. If I had my way, people would have to be at least 18 to even be considered for a drivers licence, or even 21 because when you're 16 you still aren't old enough and responsible enough to take care of your own choices in many cases, you certainly can't fend for yourself, and in most states, you can't smoke till you're at least 18. So why is driving different?

Also, not to keep the rest of you out of the loop, I think very stringent driving tests should be required for all those of us who already have our licences. Maybe conduct the tests either bi-annually or every 4 years when we renew our licences to make sure we haven't started driving like idiots.

Anyone else think that driving restrictions need to be tighter? I sure do. And I have no problem going along with any of my suggestions either, because if I took one of the driving tests and they failed me because I was a bad driver, then tough luck. If I suck at driving, then I don't need to be on the road, and same goes for anyone else. Sorry if this request for comment has turned into a rant. But I'm tired of dealing with morons on the road every single stinking day.
 
First of all no 16 year old should be behind the wheel of a 4000 lb vehicle. I don't give a damn what someone may say but the percentage of 16 year olds that suck the balls on the road (and myself and my friends were in this group) is such that they shouldn't be driving. They're basically kids and even when they don't think they are superman behind the wheel (as my friends and I all did) once you get a few kids in a car listening to music and carrying on the driver might as well not even try to drive responsibly. The driving age should be raised to 18 and it should be more difficult to get a license.

Furthermore any parent who buys their 16 year old kid a fast car is just begging to get a call from the police at 10:00 at night that their son or daughter has wrapped themselves around a tree. When my kids turn 16 I'm going to get them the slowest safest car I can find. I think a diesel volkswagen.
 
Yep, I fully agree with you. If many states don't think people are responsible enough to smoke or drink till they're at least 18, if not 21, how is driving a vehicle different??
 
Originally posted by: LordRaiden
Yep, I fully agree with you. If many states don't think people are responsible enough to smoke or drink till they're at least 18, if not 21, how is driving a vehicle different??
Another silly baseless law - you can drive a 4000 lb vehicle at 70 mph when you're 16, but for another 5 years you aren't able to drink. How utterly silly. I've done ample underage drinking and let me assure you that I've never put anybody's life at risk from it, though between the ages of 16-18 only through the grace of god did I not end up killing anybody when driving. My friends and I used to think we were race car drivers. Some 16 year olds drive safely - those scared of driving (which is the other half of the crowd) and the other half use their "I'm 16 and invincible" attitude behind the wheel. Kids in cars is freaking scary.

 
Even in highschool at least half the kids drove responsibly, of course there were the other half that were morons.

Here are my suggestions:

Bi-annual driver's testing
Much stricter road tests (You only need 75% to pass! I got 94%, for the record. They should make the bare minimum 90% to pass and the test itself should be longer).

Shit, my friend failed 3x, totaled his car on one of the tests, and passed with 75%! Another friend passed the first time, but the guy had to pull the handbrake on him cause he turned on an arrow and he went up on the curb while parallel parking.

Actually, I think the whole thing about road tests is crap. SCREW road tests! How about SKILL tests?
Have the person drive in a simulator and see how good they are at avoiding accidents, how fast their reaction is, etc.. and don't give them a license until they actually know how to get out of some tricky situations! How many drivers are given licenses that don't even know how to get out of a skid?


Also, do the following:

Raise most speed limits as most of them are too low
Get rid of all those unnecessary stop signs
Get rid of photo radar, keep the red light cameras but make it illegal to change the length of the yellow and make it so all money collected goes to pay the maintenance, and the rest goes to charity or something like that
 
Here in the US, if you're under 21, you take a 6 week drivers ed class that's perty much a joke and you've got a licence to drive the worlds most powerful legalized weapon. Over 21 and all you need is a birth certificate in many states. I'm not saying the federal government needs to step in on this. Actually, quite the contrary. They got their hands in too much stuff already.
Got my permit the day I turned 15. Had a full license at 16 and never took driver's ed. Driver's education is not required in the United States, all it does is help you get your license at a younger age.
 
Originally posted by: Ultima
Bi-annual driver's testing
Hell no. I refuse to follow the proper techniques set forth by my local DMV. That 10 and 2 crap has to go. Not too mention, I as many of the other Americans do not have the time to waste at the DMV.

 
I believe that emergency driving/accident avoidance should be a requirement for drivers licenses. If you can't recover from a skid/slide/fishtail/whatever, you shouldn't be allowed to drive. I also think that police should focus more enforcement efforts on tailgaters and redlight-runners than on speeders.
 
Originally posted by: minendo
Here in the US, if you're under 21, you take a 6 week drivers ed class that's perty much a joke and you've got a licence to drive the worlds most powerful legalized weapon. Over 21 and all you need is a birth certificate in many states. I'm not saying the federal government needs to step in on this. Actually, quite the contrary. They got their hands in too much stuff already.

thats not trun in NY all you need to do is [ass a multipial choics test to get your per,mit. then you have to take a 5 hour corse. which you can sleep through and pass. then its road test time

I agree that there are MANY peopel pon the rpad that shouldent be able to dirive. many states are takeing steps to help this tho. in many states untill your 18 you cant drive after 9pm. its like this in NY and some say if you under 18 you cant drive with more then 1 other person who is under 18 in you car.

thoes laws help. BUT its not enough. ive almost been killed by too many idiots that shouldent be driving. NY has teh right idea when they banneed cell phone use in cars. these people are a danger. especially women on them cause they cant drive anyway.
 
First of all no 16 year old should be behind the wheel of a 4000 lb vehicle. I don't give a damn what someone may say but the percentage of 16 year olds that suck the balls on the road (and myself and my friends were in this group) is such that they shouldn't be driving. They're basically kids and even when they don't think they are superman behind the wheel (as my friends and I all did) once you get a few kids in a car listening to music and carrying on the driver might as well not even try to drive responsibly. The driving age should be raised to 18 and it should be more difficult to get a license.
I guess I agree to a point. See, I NEEDED my liscense to get to work everyday, there were no exceptions.

Driving is a privaledge, not a f'ing requirement of being an American, and people need to realize that.
Old, worn, cliche statement. It may have been that way a while back, but the way things are structured now, it's nearly a requirement to have your own personal transportation. Public transportation does'nt even get CLOSE to sufficient.

You have to change the entire system that we live and work in, if you want to change the driving system.

Why are all you kids here such rule nazi's? Do all of you have military families?
UP AT O FIVE HUNDRED SON, beloved patriot AND SPAN YOUR ROOM THEN LETS GO DO SOME YARDWORK, NOW MOVE MOVE MOVE!!!
 
drving education and testing needs to be completely revised, as it is a complete joke. here in arizona you have to answer 15 questions and drive once around the block. i really wonder if anyone ever failed that test? also, certain laws need to be revised. here in arizona it is perfectly legal to change lanes in the middle of an intersection. :Q and last but not least vehicle testing, just like the TUV in germany. i see so many vehicles that are obviously not road-worthy it's not even funny.
 
I think that we need a system more akin to that which is in place in Germany. Also, I think that drivers should be required to take race driving classes and car-control classes as opposed to the current (and worthless) "defensive driving" classes.

ZV
 
I think that we need a system more akin to that which is in place in Germany. Also, I think that drivers should be required to take race driving classes and car-control classes as opposed to the current (and worthless) "defensive driving" classes.
So all the 18 yr olds in their riced up civics can think, "d00d's, I went to race car school, so Im a mastar drivar!!!!!!11"
 
Originally posted by: SammySon
I think that we need a system more akin to that which is in place in Germany. Also, I think that drivers should be required to take race driving classes and car-control classes as opposed to the current (and worthless) "defensive driving" classes.
So all the 18 yr olds in their riced up civics can think, "d00d's, I went to race car school, so Im a mastar drivar!!!!!!11"

not at all. most 18 year old germans drive better than americans who have driven for many years. if you experienced the german testing and education system, you would know why it's so much better. the only downside is the cost.
 
Just look around San Gabriel, CA. Lots of Asians who can't drive in $40k+ German cars. To top it off, they never go faster then 30mph.

-psianime
 
Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: Ultima
Bi-annual driver's testing
Hell no. I refuse to follow the proper techniques set forth by my local DMV. That 10 and 2 crap has to go. Not too mention, I as many of the other Americans do not have the time to waste at the DMV.

Heh.. 10 and 2... I'd like to know what moron came up with that. It's downright unsafe. IMO, you're prone to turning the wheel too much if you keep your hands there. I keep my hands at 9 and 3 or 10 and the shifter, kthx.
Edit: Or 12 and the shifter 😀.
 
Originally posted by: kleinesarschloch
drving education and testing needs to be completely revised, as it is a complete joke. here in arizona you have to answer 15 questions and drive once around the block. i really wonder if anyone ever failed that test? also, certain laws need to be revised. here in arizona it is perfectly legal to change lanes in the middle of an intersection. :Q and last but not least vehicle testing, just like the TUV in germany. i see so many vehicles that are obviously not road-worthy it's not even funny.
I agree. Vehicle testing and safety requirements should be a must. We've got so many redneck junkers up here in Michigan that it's disgusting. I've driven behind vehicles that are literally falling apart as you drive behind them. I've had to dodge everything from trailer hitches to bumpers (that was an interesting one) to fenders, rims, tires, hubcaps, mirrors, you name it, I've probubly seen it. I'm guessing that a good 10-20% of vehicles on the roads across the US are technically not road worthy. Heck, a local girl I know drives a vehicle that has no brakes, litterally. The tires are 40k plus easily, with almost zero tred, and the disks and drums are metal on metal. Yet she's allowed to drive it.

I know some states like California have mandatory vehicle inspection laws. I think those are great. 🙂 I wish they had more of them. I had one old truck I used to drive that could stop on a dime until some crazy chick in a beat up subaru rear ended me during a quick stop to avoid another idiot. She ran up under the bakc of my truck and flipped it end over so that it landed upside down on the road. Turns out her brakes had almost no fluid left in them and were metal on metal. On top of that, she was speeding! If I wasn't such a gentleman, I probubly would have beat her just for being so stupid.

So yeah, I'm definately all for inspection laws and way strickter driving laws and tests.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: LordRaiden
Yep, I fully agree with you. If many states don't think people are responsible enough to smoke or drink till they're at least 18, if not 21, how is driving a vehicle different??
Another silly baseless law - you can drive a 4000 lb vehicle at 70 mph when you're 16, but for another 5 years you aren't able to drink. How utterly silly. I've done ample underage drinking and let me assure you that I've never put anybody's life at risk from it, though between the ages of 16-18 only through the grace of god did I not end up killing anybody when driving. My friends and I used to think we were race car drivers. Some 16 year olds drive safely - those scared of driving (which is the other half of the crowd) and the other half use their "I'm 16 and invincible" attitude behind the wheel. Kids in cars is freaking scary.

Yep. I agree 100%.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
First of all no 16 year old should be behind the wheel of a 4000 lb vehicle. I don't give a damn what someone may say but the percentage of 16 year olds that suck the balls on the road (and myself and my friends were in this group) is such that they shouldn't be driving. They're basically kids and even when they don't think they are superman behind the wheel (as my friends and I all did) once you get a few kids in a car listening to music and carrying on the driver might as well not even try to drive responsibly. The driving age should be raised to 18 and it should be more difficult to get a license.

Furthermore any parent who buys their 16 year old kid a fast car is just begging to get a call from the police at 10:00 at night that their son or daughter has wrapped themselves around a tree. When my kids turn 16 I'm going to get them the slowest safest car I can find. I think a diesel volkswagen.

Agree again. Skoorb are you my clone?
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Skoorb
First of all no 16 year old should be behind the wheel of a 4000 lb vehicle. I don't give a damn what someone may say but the percentage of 16 year olds that suck the balls on the road (and myself and my friends were in this group) is such that they shouldn't be driving. They're basically kids and even when they don't think they are superman behind the wheel (as my friends and I all did) once you get a few kids in a car listening to music and carrying on the driver might as well not even try to drive responsibly. The driving age should be raised to 18 and it should be more difficult to get a license.

Furthermore any parent who buys their 16 year old kid a fast car is just begging to get a call from the police at 10:00 at night that their son or daughter has wrapped themselves around a tree. When my kids turn 16 I'm going to get them the slowest safest car I can find. I think a diesel volkswagen.

Agree again. Skoorb are you my clone?
I am your clone!! I really did find that once I hit 18 my maturity started to kick in in regards to driving. Sure I sometimes do silly things even now, but the difference between when I was 16 and 18 is massive. It's not just that new drivers suck, it's that 16 year old males have too much crap going on in their bodies to be responsible behind the wheel of a car. I saw a guy the other day in an altima who thought he was the sh*t and then as we were waiting to merge the guy was pathetic. I mean it's like his mind totally froze up - as I drove by him I saw he was young. Probably driving with his dick earlier, but his mind just couldn't keep up.

And girls of that age are not a heck of a lot better. A friend of mine told me about his cousin who was about to get into an accident and she put her fugging hands over her eyes. I mean WTF take her license for the rest of her life and feed her to the dogs. Hands over eyes!!!! The scariest thing on the road besides a 16 year old in a fast car is a 16 year old female in an SUV with 4 of her friends in it on the cellphone. I'd say approx 4 neurons per minute are being fired to control where the vehicle goes.
 
If I see another person making a turn without the use of the turning signal, there will be some MAJOR ROAD RAGE on my part! And if another moron tailgates me when there is another car in front of me and I can't go any faster, there will be some ROAD MINES involved.

BRING ON THE PAIN!!!
 
yep we need sctricter requirements to get licence....the test and the written one are a joke! i got -1 and -3 respectivly on those

some people should not be on the road....the dmv needs to get some balls and fail more people, though the mroe people they pass the more $$ they make :|
 
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