Should Social Media "Influencers" be Held to a Higher Standard?

[FelixDeCat]

An offer of free video consoles was made but then not fulfilled inciting a large crowd that gathered to begin rioting in response. The "influencer" has since been charged.

Another "influencer" who by and large has done many charitable things was criticized for offering a prize to his followers to clean displays of his products for sale at WalMart, causing disruptions as people complied:

MrBeast stirs backlash after asking fans to fix Walmart displays for his Feastables chocolate bars

The YouTube creator's snack company said it is holding a contest for fans who clean the displays.

www.nbcnews.com

Knowing you have the power to gather large crowds and do your bidding should mean you are held to a higher standard than most people who have no following. And no, Im not excluding Trump and his J6 rioters for which he too is facing charges. There are simply too many people right now with no common sense that go out and cause mayhem for promises or causes.

 

[Lezunto]

I went to so many gatherings. memorials and protests at Union Square Park. I was stunned by how brazen many of those younger people were when they went up against the NYPD.

 

[sandorski]

They should probably be banned from Live Streaming in Malls/Stores, especially when they are doing it to be intentionally disruptive/combative to those around them.

 

[sportage]

My issue is with Trump. This social media influencer was arrested and jailed whereas Donald Trump simply drove-away. Or was driven away, waving. This influencer was treated quite rough, Donald Trump had not a hair of his head touched by authorities. Donald Trump is white, this influencer is Black. Donald Trump has a following, this influencer... well he has his following too.

My problem with everything in life comes down to inconsistencies. Equal fairness. Fair and equal treatment.
Justice must be consistent. Laws must be consistent. How we treat race and gender and sexual orientation must be consistent. How we treat US Supreme Court justices must be consistent with how we treat.... anyone else who dare broke the law.
The lack of consistency, that is what makes my blood boil.

That goes for Biden and Hunter too. If there is anything there there, then they too should face the music. I like Biden, I voted for him, but if he actually broke any law then I fully support his accountability. Unlike maga, who don't give a shit what Trump does.
Consistency folks, consistency.

 

[Meghan54]

Wait…I thought you were for small/no govt intervention in public life. Now you want more intervention because who will hold all these dastardly influencers to any standard at all save govt?

You so confuse and confusing.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Lol, FDC the clown show.

 

[Amused]

An offer of free video consoles was made but then not fulfilled inciting a large crowd that gathered to begin rioting in response. The "influencer" has since been charged.

Another "influencer" who by and large has done many charitable things was criticized for offering a prize to his followers to clean displays of his products for sale at WalMart, causing disruptions as people complied:

MrBeast stirs backlash after asking fans to fix Walmart displays for his Feastables chocolate bars

The YouTube creator's snack company said it is holding a contest for fans who clean the displays.

www.nbcnews.com

Knowing you have the power to gather large crowds and do your bidding should mean you are held to a higher standard than most people who have no following. And no, Im not excluding Trump and his J6 rioters for which he too is facing charges. There are simply too many people right now with no common sense that go out and cause mayhem for promises or causes.

So you agree that Trump should be held responsible for Jan 6th?

Great!

 

[FelixDeCat]

So you agree that Trump should be held responsible for Jan 6th?

Great!

Yes.

 

[Pens1566]

Talking about the important topics ...

 

[FelixDeCat]

My issue is with Trump. This social media influencer was arrested and jailed whereas Donald Trump simply drove-away. Or was driven away, waving. This influencer was treated quite rough, Donald Trump had not a hair of his head touched by authorities. Donald Trump is white, this influencer is Black. Donald Trump has a following, this influencer... well he has his following too.

My problem with everything in life comes down to inconsistencies. Equal fairness. Fair and equal treatment.
Justice must be consistent. Laws must be consistent. How we treat race and gender and sexual orientation must be consistent. How we treat US Supreme Court justices must be consistent with how we treat.... anyone else who dare broke the law.
The lack of consistency, that is what makes my blood boil.

That goes for Biden and Hunter too. If there is anything there there, then they too should face the music. I like Biden, I voted for him, but if he actually broke any law then I fully support his accountability. Unlike maga, who don't give a shit what Trump does.
Consistency folks, consistency.

I think the difference is that one had Secret Service protection because he held highest political office. The other person played video games for a living and made the decision between which video bytes lived and whic pixels died.

Had the roles been reversed it might have been a different story.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Talking about the important topics ...

I report, you decide.

 

[Pens1566]

I report, you decide.

We have all decided already.

 

[HomerJS]

Yes.

No you don't. You voted for that dirtbag.

On the responsibility scale some Youtuber rates pretty low compared to a POTUS. I find the sincerity in this thread lacking.

If someone with credibility had posted this I would agree, even though I actually agree with the premise. If you had any credibility, I would have found a comment on "come after me and I will come after you"

I didn't look for it but I know it doesn't exist from you.

 

[Stokely]

Most "influencers" are the modern equivalent of the guys that drove around in the old west in stagecoaches selling snake oil. Humans are no more insulated against bullshit now than they were then, and now the snakeoil salesmen and trolls have it so much easier. Set up a studio in a bedroom, have some video skills and bam you too can influence the rubes.

The only way to win is not to play, but good luck getting people to stop tuning in. Society is fucked, IMO. No matter what you do to try to reign in these suppliers, demand wins out. Just as with the "war on drugs(tm)".

 

[HomerJS]

Most "influencers" are the modern equivalent of the guys that drove around in the old west in stagecoaches selling snake oil. Humans are no more insulated against bullshit now than they were then, and now the snakeoil salesmen and trolls have it so much easier. Set up a studio in a bedroom, have some video skills and bam you too can influence the rubes.

The only way to win is not to play, but good luck getting people to stop tuning in. Society is fucked, IMO. No matter what you do to try to reign in these suppliers, demand wins out. Just as with the "war on drugs(tm)".

CPE1704TKS

 

[FelixDeCat]

Most "influencers" are the modern equivalent of the guys that drove around in the old west in stagecoaches selling snake oil. Humans are no more insulated against bullshit now than they were then, and now the snakeoil salesmen and trolls have it so much easier. Set up a studio in a bedroom, have some video skills and bam you too can influence the rubes.

The only way to win is not to play, but good luck getting people to stop tuning in. Society is fucked, IMO. No matter what you do to try to reign in these suppliers, demand wins out. Just as with the "war on drugs(tm)".

Agreed.

Canada 🇨🇦 has the right idea. They are about to implement a digital services tax retroactive to 2022 to cash in online activities.

I think they should take it a step further and tax influencers directly with a 10 cent per month tax on each follower / subscriber over 1 million.

MrBeast would be kicking, crying and screaming. 😱

His YouTube channel and ancillary businesses were recently valued at $1.5 billion. He is 25.

I'll bet @Red Squirrel agrees with Treadeu on this new tax. I do.

 

[amenx]

Yes, social media influencers should be held accountable. Especially those with the most influence who can summon up hordes of armed zombies to attack govt institutions they dont agree with.

 

[HomerJS]

I report, you decide.

I wondered why @FelixDeCat cared about some youtuber. I see why. Meanwhile this forum is littered with his excuses for Trump including the laughable quote, "I rescind my vote" after voting for that maniac. Whenever it was pointed out to him Trump incited the violence Felix just #bothsides it. There are similarities both this guy and Trump are social media influencers but Felix has NEVER called out Trump specifically. However major differences, Kai Cenat is just some guy with a lot of followers that did something really irresponsible and he needs to be held to account. Trump was and I need to repeat this, President of the United States. Trump was part of a plot to overthrow the government using the toll of violence. What happened in NYC was not orchestrated violence but just chaos that can occur crowding a bunch of people in s small area. There are NO comparisons of Jan 6 to BLM protests of this chaos.

Felix could care less about violence so long as the perps are on his team.

 

[FelixDeCat]

^ Not sure what the purpose of that post was. Pretty much the point I made in the OP and subsequent posts.

Oh well. Im assuming you agree that having your followers show up and cause mayhem should make you responsible. Which was the topic of the thread.

 

[HomerJS]

^ Not sure what the purpose of that post was. Pretty much the point I made in the OP and subsequent posts.

Oh well. Im assuming you agree that having your followers show up and cause mayhem should make you responsible. Which was the topic of the thread.

My point is you don't really care about social media influencers creating chaos because you never called out the more powerful person alone. Trump has been causing social media chaos since he declared running. You waited until you had a perp that fit your narrative and threw in a "well I mean Trump too"

If you really cared about it you would have cared about it in 2016.

 

[FelixDeCat]

My point is you don't really care about social media influencers creating chaos because you never called out the more powerful person alone. Trump has been causing social media chaos since he declared running. You waited until you had a perp that fit your narrative and threw in a "well I mean Trump too"

If you really cared about it you would have cared about it in 2016.

Wat? I gave 3 examples. You need to recognize this and take it into consideration.

Fact is you agree with me. Hold them all to account. If necessary, jail might teach a lesson.

 

[HomerJS]

Wat? I gave 3 examples. You need to recognize this and take it into consideration.

Fact is you agree with me. Hold them all to account. If necessary, jail might teach a lesson.

You did it now to give yourself plausible deniability. Have you done it from 2016-last year?

It's like when Trump answers a question he gives yes and no answers and leaves it up to interpretation.

My positions are consistent. Yours are fungible depending on the perp. Example you claim lefties don't take personal responsibility. You have NEVER taken responsibility for voting for Trump and the chaos that caused.

 

[Moonbeam]

An offer of free video consoles was made but then not fulfilled inciting a large crowd that gathered to begin rioting in response. The "influencer" has since been charged.

Another "influencer" who by and large has done many charitable things was criticized for offering a prize to his followers to clean displays of his products for sale at WalMart, causing disruptions as people complied:

MrBeast stirs backlash after asking fans to fix Walmart displays for his Feastables chocolate bars

The YouTube creator's snack company said it is holding a contest for fans who clean the displays.

www.nbcnews.com

Knowing you have the power to gather large crowds and do your bidding should mean you are held to a higher standard than most people who have no following. And no, Im not excluding Trump and his J6 rioters for which he too is facing charges. There are simply too many people right now with no common sense that go out and cause mayhem for promises or causes.

What I hear is the language in which your post is couched, particularly regarding the sense in which 'held' and 'should be' generally suggest. To hold accountable is to act on a moral judgment that someone is doing something considered improper, and here the validity of the correctness of that implication not in evidence. And it is out of that assumption of some sort of infraction, crime or guiltiness of something or other that 'should' comes into effect.

This, in my opinion, is the origin of authoritarian thinking, the acquisition via childhood of feelings of guilt and the acceptance that one deserved to be punished with all feelings of resentment and questioning of the validity that one was really guilty of anything never ever to be expressed least the house come down on you. Discipline, stoic behavior, lack of empathy, hardness toward life, conservative thinking is the result. We all become the torch bearers of oppressive insanity.

The way to instill morality in children is not by propounding 'shoulds' and holding individuals accountable, but by setting an example of the joy that flows naturally to deeply empathetic human beings, by showing children what it is to be a real woman or man.

Everything we do in life by way of correction contains its own form of deviation driven by unconscious needs. There is only love. The lover does not need rules to take care of the Beloved because the Lover and the Beloved are one.

Psychologically we are primitives in my opinion.

 

[hal2kilo]

I just they would all get a real life and stop thinking anyone gives a shit about what they think but for some reason people love to be led around by the nose. Thinking is so hard.

 

[FelixDeCat]

I just they would all get a real life and stop thinking anyone gives a shit about what they think but for some reason people love to be led around by the nose. Thinking is so hard.

So you are saying my posts don't influence you? What if I offered a free Playstation?*









*There are no free Playstations. I will not show up. Please don't riot.