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Should I let my company train me when I don't plan on staying there?

MBony

MBony

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Please don't make this become a thread about whether or not certifications are worth it or not.

I decided the end of last year that I wanted to further pursue getting my certification (MCSA & MCSE). I recently got my A+ and Net+ and will be starting classes next week in pursuit of 70-270. I left it open w/ my boss who is super nice that I may decide in the future that I would like for them to pay for the training, but at this time I want to pay for it on my own.

The company I work for has volunteered to pay for all the training I would like.

At this time I don't have intentions of staying there over a year. I also will be paying for the training myself because I don't want to feel indebted to my company for taking them. The classes are 5 days and to get my MCSA & MCSE I will need to take 6 classes, each 5 weekdays.

My question is this: I have thought about it and I could sign a year contract of employment with them, but no longer than that.

Is it fair to get them to pay for training me when I have no intention to stay past my 1 year agreement? I feel like I am using them in some way.

Cliff Notes
I want to get my MCSA & MCSE certifications.
I am currently going to pay for classes (not bootcamp)
Boss offers to pay for everything, but I declined because I wouldn't want them to hold that over my head.
There are 6 classes that will be costing ~$6800


I am thinking about getting my company to pay for it and signing a 1 year agreement for employment.
I have intentions of leaving the company after the 1 year is up.

Would it be wrong to get my company to agree to that agreement?
 
Heck no. Get them to pay for it without signing jack squat. Nothing wrong with it at all. Employment is nothing more than a business transaction - don't let emotions get in the way.

There is no better return on investment then training your employees. I purposely fight for my guys training budget....two weeks/year to be used as they please. Conference/training, whatever.
 
I'm convinced that your company is well aware that slavery is no longer legal or socially acceptable. If they're willing to pay for this training, there is nothing wrong with taking it.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Heck no. Get them to pay for it without signing jack squat. Nothing wrong with it at all. Employment is nothing more than a business transaction - don't let emotions get in the way.

There is no better return on investment then training your employees. I purposely fight for my guys training budget....two weeks/year to be used as they please. Conference/training, whatever.
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Exactly. Don't feel guilty about getting the training and moving on to something bigger and better.
 
My company knows I'll be there for a year or so tops and they are encouraging me to get as many certs as possible.
I'm definitely going to walk out of there with a CCNA on their dime. 😀
 
Go for it. Do you think if you're company had to make some cuts and if you were one of them, that they'd care.
 
Originally posted by: tweakmm
My company knows I'll be there for a year or so tops and they are encouraging me to get as many certs as possible.
I'm definitely going to walk out of there with a CCNA on their dime. 😀
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Just remember that when you do mutual re-distribution you'll have to prevent black holes and you'll be just fine. And fixing a broken OSPF area is easy, but it should not have happened in the first place.
😉
 
If Florida is an "At Will" state...either party (you or your employer) can terminate the employment contract given two weeks notice.

As long as you don't have a set contract period, take the training and leave!
 
i've never done the let work pay for training thing. my last employer told me if they paid for training, i would have to stay for 1-2 years.

now, i don't know what happens if you decide to quit. Can they make you reimburse if you leave early? can they even force you to stay?
 
Take the classes and let them pay for it. They only require a year afterword, so they are getting what they want while you get what you want. Everyone is happy! 🙂
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
i've never done the let work pay for training thing. my last employer told me if they paid for training, i would have to stay for 1-2 years.

now, i don't know what happens if you decide to quit. Can they make you reimburse if you leave early? can they even force you to stay?
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They can't force you to do anything. Of course if you sign an agreement and break it, they can sue you for breach of contract.
 
Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Wow, you must be too nice a person.

Let them pay for the certification. Then, go for the highest bidder.
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I agree. But I have another question -- are you considering leaving because you don't like the work, work enviroment, or money (or other?). I'm going to rule out that you like the work because you are getting more training in that field. Also you state that your boss is great, so I'm going to assume you like the enviroment (could be wrong though). Therefore that leaves money as the reason to leave. If that's the case, and you find another job offer in a year, and you want to be respectful to your boss, you should show them the offer rather than just quitting without giving them a chance to match the offer. Think of yourself (after you've finished the training) like a restricted free agent in the NBA.
 
Originally posted by: erub
Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Wow, you must be too nice a person.

Let them pay for the certification. Then, go for the highest bidder.
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I agree. But I have another question -- are you considering leaving because you don't like the work, work enviroment, or money (or other?). I'm going to rule out that you like the work because you are getting more training in that field. Also you state that your boss is great, so I'm going to assume you like the enviroment (could be wrong though). Therefore that leaves money as the reason to leave. If that's the case, and you find another job offer in a year, and you want to be respectful to your boss, you should show them the offer rather than just quitting without giving them a chance to match the offer. Think of yourself (after you've finished the training) like a restricted free agent in the NBA.
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The reason I would leave, if I did, would be for money and just to be in a better location. I have lived in the area all my life and would like a change of scenery.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Heck no. Get them to pay for it without signing jack squat. Nothing wrong with it at all. Employment is nothing more than a business transaction - don't let emotions get in the way.

There is no better return on investment then training your employees. I purposely fight for my guys training budget....two weeks/year to be used as they please. Conference/training, whatever.
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Truth
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
i've never done the let work pay for training thing. my last employer told me if they paid for training, i would have to stay for 1-2 years.

now, i don't know what happens if you decide to quit. Can they make you reimburse if you leave early? can they even force you to stay?
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cant force you to stay. slavery outlawed a long time away. but they can ask for their $ back. if you say sure the check is in the mail and never repay, the company has to spend time/$ on lawsuit. usually not worth it for the company unless they spend a BOAT of $ in training. but you burn that bridge.

a better way- tell new employer that you need to pay back ol demployer for training, and ask for a signing bonus for the equivalent amount.
 
Let them pay, you do not owe them anything except working hard while you are there. The training will be better for the company and you may end up staying longer than you expect.
 
Unless you sing an agreement to stay for a year if they provide the training, it's free to do with as you choose. Technically, you could take the training, and leave the next day, and they have no recourse to collect the costs from you...it's part of being in business. YES, it's rather unethical to do it that way, and I'm not advocating you quit immediately. Take all the training you can get, stay the year, and consider your options at that time.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Heck no. Get them to pay for it without signing jack squat. Nothing wrong with it at all. Employment is nothing more than a business transaction - don't let emotions get in the way.

There is no better return on investment then training your employees. I purposely fight for my guys training budget....two weeks/year to be used as they please. Conference/training, whatever.
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Since when do business transactions preclude ethics? 😕 And ethics have nothing to do with emotions.

OP - obviously there is nothing preventing you from having them pay for the training and then leaving. But you seem to feel that it is ethically wrong to do that, because the company is obviously paying for the training on the assumption that they'll get a reasonable amount of use out of it. I agree with you on that.
 
Originally posted by: mugs

OP - obviously there is nothing preventing you from having them pay for the training and then leaving. But you seem to feel that it is ethically wrong to do that, because the company is obviously paying for the training on the assumption that they'll get a reasonable amount of use out of it. I agree with you on that.
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Yes, this is my main problem with letting them do it. I would be going into this agreement knowing that I want to get out as soon as I get my training. Maybe not the actual day I finish my certifications, but very soon after.
 
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