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Should I go with water or air cooling?

johny2314jj

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Should I go with water or air cooling?
I want it to be quite while gaming and idle and also be able to cool my system properly.

Im running 2 GTX 590 Quad SLI and Intel i7 2600k in a HAF-X case.

If I go with water cooling can i get rid of the default fans in the HAF-X case?

new at this lol
 
if i was gonna water anything in your system, it would probably be the GPU.

Having that much GPU on a single 220, would probably give you temp reductions of 40-50% of your current values.

However, the gpu blocks alone will cost you 250 dollars.
 
Why do you was to get rid of the default fans? Noise? you could install a fan bus to adjust the speed of the fans. it's be a bit cheaper than replacing all the fans and much more flexible.

From looking at the cooler master web site, you can mount a 360 radiator on top and lower the speed with a fan controller.

Here's one that you can connect to a pwm controlled header and it will control 6 fans with that.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=30058

It can handle 30w per channel so it should have no problem with any fan you can throw at it.
 
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2 GTX 590 Quad SLI

I wouldn't even use a 2 GPU SLI without water cooling. It is just ridiculously loud on air.

Definitely watercool the video cards.

If you got the cash. Go water.
Considering he is using two 700$ a piece video cards I would say he has the cash 😛... his case alone costs 200$ (every one of mine was 15$+15$ shipping, and when they broke I ghetto rigged them back together.)
 
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There are also quiet cooling fans that you can buy to reduce noise. I saw on some website that said a quiet cooling fan is around 12 db or less.
 
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Martin has done a nice review and is posted in many cooling threads about the universal GPU WCing blocks. Some are indeed not worth the while to even look at while a few are very inexpensive and perform just as good as the ones that fit like a glove. Best of all, if you ever upgrade, the universals can be used on the next generation cards.

The universal blocks are lower cost and the ones that perform well are in good demand.
 
the two 590s looks like a major heat producer, I'd consider water unless you deem it too troublesome/costly.
 
wat problems occur with water cooling? wat are pros and cons of air vs water??

Theres too many to list.
You should of had these down when you were researching water to begin with.

You can short something out.. infact you can short everything out if ur not careful.

You will need to do some maintaince.. there is no such thing as a no maintaince system unless its a prepackaged out of the box one. And even then you might need to dust the rad off once in a while.

But normal systems needs to be topped off every now and then.
Tubing is naturally slightly pourus, so water will evap though the tubing at a very slow rate.

If you dont use proper antimicrobs, you can get funky swamp thing growing inside your loop which can cause a foul order...

This is just the start of it... and im only telling u the bads..
As i said, the goods you should already know, because no amount of people telling u what to do or how things will work, will be enough for you to ignore proper research.

If you have somebody else build it and warrenty it there are no cons 😀

Meh... even then... a fully LC'd system would cost you bank.. and a lot of it..
But i guess if u can afford to spend the extra, why not pocket the difference and put it away as insurance incase u did break something.

I bet you'd still come out ahead.

wowwoowowoo. howl likely is it too leakk

Meh... everyone leaks.
If you watercool long enough, u will leak... no one can go without leaking at least once.
No one is immune to leaking.

Ive leaked enough to tell you, when i leak, i dont freak out anymore.
I just Sigh... going wtf did i miss, as i get ready for a full dry out and rebuild.
 
My friend ran his watercooling system with a car's antifreeze liquid. is this a good idea?

it used to be the norm.

Because guys remember most of ur system was originally off the heater core section on a car.

So the assumption went, cars are 12v, the cooling system in cars are 12V, so maybe we can scale stuff down for cars, and fit it in our application.

Well, thats how it started.

Heatercores + Fish pumps... with basic cooper plates.
Antifreeze was included originally as antimicrob and partial mix metal protection.

Later when LC took off like a rocket for the moon, we got rid of antifreeze, because we no longer use unsafe mix metals.

Well, if u still do, then your way behind the times.


guys i cant stress enough to you about how important research is before any medium change.

You are changing mediums.. your no longer staying on straight air.
Changing mediums means, you should research and study it.
At least get the basic concepts behind.

One of the most confused concepts people have with water is that its something like a magic eraser in which it wipes heat out.
Instead its a pickup trick moving heat from 1 location to another.

This concept alone u should understand, with simple basic thermodynamics to support it.
And not have to have someone teach you about it, because:
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But thermodynamics can never lie. If it does, your dreaming.
 
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I like the shirt. I follow the same principles myself... actually I would say the basis of science is the belief that you cannot trust anyone to know the truth. You can trust many to not intentionally lie to you, but that doesn't mean that what they tell you is correct.
 
OK, I am going with 1 GTX 590 EVGA Classified, 1 i7 990z or 2600k Over clocked, 8 or 12GB 1600 Ram, 1 120GB to 160GB SSD, 1 2TB HDD, 1 DL Reader / Writer, 1 BD Reader / Writer, Coolmaster HAF-X, and the best mobo and psu for this setup. Also I want the system to run quite but I dont want water cooling. How should I do this? Cyberpowerpc? Custom Build?
 
u know the 990x vs the 2600k alone is like asking do i want to spend 3times as much?

i wonder if anyone on the forum has both like me.. :X
 
OK, heres what I did, verify this for me before I order if you don't mind. I configured it like this so it is 100% silent , with water cooling, and it will be ready for future upgrades, like adding another graphics card. idk if I still need fans on the case. But yea let me know if theres anything I should change! thanks


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