Should I get the MSI GTX 560 Ti 448 Twin Frozr?

[aknuds1]

I'm in the market for a new video card that'll accelerate Adobe Premiere CS 5.5, while being relatively quiet. From what I understand the MSI N560GTX-448 Twin Frozr III offers great performance for the money and is also relatively quiet. However, I've been told there's a chance it'll affect case temperature negatively. I have a Lian Li midi tower with 120 mm fans back and front, as well as a fan blowing on installed cards. There's plenty of space beneath the video card, so its cooler should be able to transfer heat effectively. The CPU, an i7, is heavily overclocked at 3.4 MHz and cooled by a Noctua NH-U12P SE 1366.

What do you guys think, would this card be a good choice given my setup?

 

[3DVagabond]

This is the list of supported nVidia cards.

http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html
Supported NVIDIA graphics cards for GPU acceleration

GeForce GTX 285 (Windows and Mac OS)
GeForce GTX 470 (Windows)
GeForce GTX 570 (Windows)
GeForce GTX 580 (Windows)
NVIDIA Tesla C2075 card (Windows)/Maximus configuration
Quadro FX 3700M (Windows)
Quadro FX 3800 (Windows)
Quadro FX 3800M (Windows)
Quadro FX 4800 (Windows and Mac OS)
Quadro FX 5800 (Windows)
Quadro 2000 (Windows)
Quadro 2000D (Windows)
Quadro 2000M (Windows)
Quadro 3000M (Windows)
Quadro 4000 (Windows and Mac OS)
Quadro 4000M (Windows)
Quadro 5000 (Windows)
Quadro 5000M (Windows)
Quadro 5010M (Windows)
Quadro 6000 (Windows)
Quadro CX (Windows)

The "560ti 448" isn't on it. I've read that there is a hack/work around to get other cards to work. I'm not sure about exactly what you do or how well non supported hardware performs.

 

[aknuds1]

This is the list of supported nVidia cards.



The "560ti 448" isn't on it. I've read that there is a hack/work around to get other cards to work. I'm not sure about exactly what you do or how well non supported hardware performs.

I've checked on the Premiere forums, apparently the card is supported through the mentioned hack, so performance shouldn't be an issue

 

[3DVagabond]

Well, it's got the same amt of CUDA cores as the quadro 6000. So, it shouldn't be lacking in any computing power (Way, way less VRAM though?). Assuming the drivers allow it to stretch it's legs. Supposedly 1gig of VRAM is sufficient. Definitely worth a try if you can't find anyone else who's already gone down that route.

 

[aknuds1]

Well, it's got the same amt of CUDA cores as the quadro 6000. So, it shouldn't be lacking in any computing power (Way, way less VRAM though?). Assuming the drivers allow it to stretch it's legs. Supposedly 1gig of VRAM is sufficient. Definitely worth a try if you can't find anyone else who's already gone down that route.

What do you think about heat production though? The one concern I have is whether the card will increase the temperature significantly in my relatively cramped (Lian Li midi tower) case. I was warned this could be a problem on the Premiere forum.

 

[96Firebird]

I don't think you'll have an issue with the temps. It doesn't use a crazy amount of power like the GTX 480, and the temps seem pretty reasonable for the performance of the card.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5153/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-ti-w448-cores-gtx570-on-a-budget/6

Do you have a video card in there now?

 

[aknuds1]

I don't think you'll have an issue with the temps. It doesn't use a crazy amount of power like the GTX 480, and the temps seem pretty reasonable for the performance of the card.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5153/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-ti-w448-cores-gtx570-on-a-budget/6

Do you have a video card in there now?

I have an old Geforce which I can't remember the model of. It's very moderate both wrt. performance and noise

 

[ocre]

I have an old Geforce which I can't remember the model of. It's very moderate both wrt. performance and noise

get the EVGA ftw 560ti 448. Its a factory overclocked card and its cheaper:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...279&CatId=3669

Its overclock makes it on average a tad bit faster than a 570.

 

[Sunny129]

I don't think you'll have an issue with the temps. It doesn't use a crazy amount of power like the GTX 480, and the temps seem pretty reasonable for the performance of the card.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5153/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-ti-w448-cores-gtx570-on-a-budget/6

Do you have a video card in there now?

i don't think the OP's concerns should be focused solely on how much heat a GTx 560 Ti 448 generates so much as they should be focused on how individually branded cards go about dissipating that heat. while the Twin Frozr III's fans and heatsink might do a great job of cooling the GPU, it exhausts hot air out both the front and rear of the fan shroud - that is, it exhausts some hot air out the back of the PC case, and the rest into the PC case. if the OP has great airflow through his entire case though, then its probably not much of a concern. otherwise i agree with you - the GTX 560 Ti 448 is not a space heater like some other GPUs.

 

[aknuds1]

i don't think the OP's concerns should be focused solely on how much heat a GTx 560 Ti 448 generates so much as they should be focused on how individually branded cards go about dissipating that heat. while the Twin Frozr III's fans and heatsink might do a great job of cooling the GPU, it exhausts hot air out both the front and rear of the fan shroud - that is, it exhausts some hot air out the back of the PC case, and the rest into the PC case. if the OP has great airflow through his entire case though, then its probably not much of a concern. otherwise i agree with you - the GTX 560 Ti 448 is not a space heater like some other GPUs.

Is there a better alternative to the Twin Frozr though, that's also quiet? At this point I'm only aware of the reference cooler design, which is supposedly noticably noisier.

 

[gqtuazon]

I just recently purchased a GTX 560Ti (not the 448) version and a 550W PSU. I gave the 448 core a consideration but the PSU that I just purchased was not enough to power the 448 core. I think it requires a 45amp on a dedicated 12v rail. My PSU was only rated at 24amps. I have not done video editing lately with Adobe CS5.5 but the video upgrade is noticeably better with other programs compared to my older video card using the latest beta driver.

 

[Sunny129]

Is there a better alternative to the Twin Frozr though, that's also quiet? At this point I'm only aware of the reference cooler design, which is supposedly noticably noisier.

aside from purchasing a card based on the reference design and then replacing its reference cooler with a twin or triple fan cooler from Arctic Cooling or the like, the Twin Frozr is probably going to be your 2nd least noisy option.