Should emotions run a company?

[Parkre]

We had some head honchos come and give a little speech yesterday.

They were explaining a why they made a policy last summer. It was a knee-jerk reaction to someone dying because they weren't following policy to begin with. So they make another policy that restricts us even more on top of the previous policy that was in place.

To me, this company should not be run by emotions. Every manager we have is some form of engineer (electrical, mech, geo, etc). It's like they forget that they should analytically prove these policies and not just go "we feel like it's made a difference."

OR am I just too critical of expecting anything from my company?

 

[HammerCurl]

Really need more details. Your post is too amgibuous here, but no, emotions should not run a company.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Emotions are fine if you're writing for Hallmark. They're not so hot when you're an engineer. But then again, your post omits any details to speak of, so there's not really much to say about your specific situation.

 

[Parkre]

I was trying to keep it simple and not have to explain every paperwork policy. But I'll try.

Our company does a lot of driving. (i drove 4k miles last month)
We are a data acquisition company and we log oil or gas wells.
We have Journey Management paperwork we fill out before every trip. (Policy)
We are not allowed to talk on cell phones while driving. (Policy)
Driving at night requires a phone call to our manager for approval. (Policy)
Every employee has the right to shut down an operation if it is unsafe. (Policy)
If you have been up for more than 16hrs, you are supposed rest and not supposed to drive. (Policy)

Every year, we have a couple employees die from night driving.
After last summers accident, we are not allowed to drive from 11pm-5am. (Policy)
The guy that instituted this policy did not care if lost clients because of this policy.
But he felt bad that someone died. But.....

The driver was driving at night, up for 23 hrs, talking on his cellphone, and drove his vehicle head-on to oncoming traffic.
And because he wasn't following policy, they made more policies to "help" prevent accidents.

All because he felt bad.

 

[Dirigible]

Is there anything you can do about it? If you can, do that. If not, accept it and move on.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: Parkre
I was trying to keep it simple and not have to explain every paperwork policy. But I'll try.

Our company does a lot of driving. (i drove 4k miles last month)
We are a data acquisition company and we log oil or gas wells.
We have Journey Management paperwork we fill out before every trip. (Policy)
We are not allowed to talk on cell phones while driving. (Policy)
Driving at night requires a phone call to our manager for approval. (Policy)
Every employee has the right to shut down an operation if it is unsafe. (Policy)
If you have been up for more than 16hrs, you are supposed rest and not supposed to drive. (Policy)

Every year, we have a couple employees die from night driving.
After last summers accident, we are not allowed to drive from 11pm-5am. (Policy)
The guy that instituted this policy did not care if lost clients because of this policy.
But he felt bad that someone died. But.....

The driver was driving at night, up for 23 hrs, talking on his cellphone, and drove his vehicle head-on to oncoming traffic.
And because he wasn't following policy, they made more policies to "help" prevent accidents.

All because he felt bad.

He's trying to keep you safe, even with the possibility of lost business. This bothers you?

 

[Parkre]

There is....we can complain about it....

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Those policies are so you don't die... I wouldn't argue there.

 

[Parkre]

I am not saying he is not trying to keep us safe.

I am saying more policies is not always the answer. We already have solid basic policies in place that help us. If those aren't followed, of course someone's going to get hurt.

 

[mb]

They should have just fired that guy for driving at night and talking on his cell phone instead of making more policies.

 

[Dirigible]

Originally posted by: Parkre
There is....we can complain about it....

Good point. Carry on, then.

Incidentally, I'm with you that this is stupid. If people died because they didn't follow the previous policies, the new ones will do nothing to help and are just another hassle.

 

[CptObvious]

It seems like a legal CYA measure for the company. I wouldn't be surprised by the language; it's just a 'nice' way to word policy changes.

 

[RandomFool]

It also helps the company to show that they are trying to do something about the problem. Having multiple drivers a year die doesn't look good for a business even if it is the drivers fault.

 

[Parkre]

All of our solid basic policies were not created by someone going "I feel..." They were created and have been proven for number of years. This new policy been around for almost a year.

This hasn't stopped accidents, just shifted them from night to around 6am or 7am in the morning, when they are allowed to drive.

 

[sdifox]

Err, you think this is being emotional? This is about economical impact to the company. The touchy feely words are just that, words.

 

[Parkre]

Your right, CYA.

But then they should be making sure that everyone is following policy instead of created new ones.

 

[Canai]

No, but emoticons should.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: mb
They should have just fired that guy for driving at night and talking on his cell phone instead of making more policies.

Darwin allready fired him

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: Parkre
I was trying to keep it simple and not have to explain every paperwork policy. But I'll try.

Our company does a lot of driving. (i drove 4k miles last month)
We are a data acquisition company and we log oil or gas wells.
We have Journey Management paperwork we fill out before every trip. (Policy)
We are not allowed to talk on cell phones while driving. (Policy)
Driving at night requires a phone call to our manager for approval. (Policy)
Every employee has the right to shut down an operation if it is unsafe. (Policy)
If you have been up for more than 16hrs, you are supposed rest and not supposed to drive. (Policy)

Every year, we have a couple employees die from night driving.
After last summers accident, we are not allowed to drive from 11pm-5am. (Policy)
The guy that instituted this policy did not care if lost clients because of this policy.
But he felt bad that someone died. But.....

The driver was driving at night, up for 23 hrs, talking on his cellphone, and drove his vehicle head-on to oncoming traffic.
And because he wasn't following policy, they made more policies to "help" prevent accidents.

All because he felt bad.

welcome to the bureaucracy.....where every time someone fvcks up due to their own stupidity we'll make a rule so that others will not be so stupid.....seriously it works EVERY time...no seriously it works.....don't laugh.

If you think about it, the whole reason HR departments exist is because there are so many idiots in the workforce.....without stupid people there would be no HR....so all you HR managers.....walk around and thank all the idiot employees you have....they keep you in a job.

 

[Specop 007]

Haha, why do you think we pass most of the laws we do?

The world is run by emotions. Just be glad they arent shoving their bullshit down your throat to the tune of "Its for the children"

 

[Parkre]

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: Parkre
I was trying to keep it simple and not have to explain every paperwork policy. But I'll try.

Our company does a lot of driving. (i drove 4k miles last month)
We are a data acquisition company and we log oil or gas wells.
We have Journey Management paperwork we fill out before every trip. (Policy)
We are not allowed to talk on cell phones while driving. (Policy)
Driving at night requires a phone call to our manager for approval. (Policy)
Every employee has the right to shut down an operation if it is unsafe. (Policy)
If you have been up for more than 16hrs, you are supposed rest and not supposed to drive. (Policy)

Every year, we have a couple employees die from night driving.
After last summers accident, we are not allowed to drive from 11pm-5am. (Policy)
The guy that instituted this policy did not care if lost clients because of this policy.
But he felt bad that someone died. But.....

The driver was driving at night, up for 23 hrs, talking on his cellphone, and drove his vehicle head-on to oncoming traffic.
And because he wasn't following policy, they made more policies to "help" prevent accidents.

All because he felt bad.

welcome to the bureaucracy.....where every time someone fvcks up due to their own stupidity we'll make a rule so that others will not be so stupid.....seriously it works EVERY time...no seriously it works.....don't laugh.

If you think about it, the whole reason HR departments exist is because there are so many idiots in the workforce.....without stupid people there would be no HR....so all you HR managers.....walk around and thank all the idiot employees you have....they keep you in a job.

The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? -unknown

SO TRUE.

 

[Parkre]

repost.

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: mb
They should have just fired that guy for driving at night and talking on his cell phone instead of making more policies.

Darwin allready fired him

I was being facetious, but excellent reply :thumbsup:

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: sdifox
Err, you think this is being emotional? This is about economical impact to the company. The touchy feely words are just that, words.

hahaha.... i know, they are just looking out for their employees.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Parkre

Every year, we have a couple employees die from night driving.

I think your boss has accepted that the current policies are not effective. The question is, is this policy more easily enforced? Obviously your company could not enforce the old policies. If they can't enforce this one, what good will it do?