Should don't ask, don't tell be repealed?

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woolfe9999

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(Actually another man short, as most military units are below TOE anyway.) I imagine most of those discharged came out voluntarily either to get out or as social protest to force a change, as 13,000 discharges over seventeen years is a vanishingly small number for the military.

Reading the fine print on the source, the number 13,389 is under-inflated, because it includes only those who came forward and reported their discharge to the Service Members Legal Defense Network. Since the SLDN provides legal aid to service members in a discharge process, it's likely that the figure doesn't track very many who voluntarily reported themselves to get discharged.

In theory, there is a way of telling how it breaks down, since a voluntary report results in a general discharge whereas being caught without reporting yourself is a dishonorable discharge. However, there is no breakdown in the stats as to the type of discharge.

- wolf
 

MarkXIX

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Why are some of you acting as if the second the policy changes, every gay currently serving is going to rip off their uniform top, displaying a "gay pride" shirt underneath and dance in the streets to the Village People?

For nearly all of them, nothing will change save for the fact that they can rest a little easier at night knowing that some biggoted asshole isn't going to find out, take exception to them and see to the end of their service.

It's important to note, as I have in previous replies, that gays have been serving quietly probably since the beginning of our military. Only bigots and politicians are going to make issue of it. Everyone else is going to continue conducting business as usual.
 

her209

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Why are some of you acting as if the second the policy changes, every gay currently serving is going to rip off their uniform top, displaying a "gay pride" shirt underneath and dance in the streets to the Village People?

For nearly all of them, nothing will change save for the fact that they can rest a little easier at night knowing that some biggoted asshole isn't going to find out, take exception to them and see to the end of their service.

It's important to note, as I have in previous replies, that gays have been serving quietly probably since the beginning of our military. Only bigots and politicians are going to make issue of it. Everyone else is going to continue conducting business as usual.
Don't you get it? Once DADT is repealed, all residents of the Castro District will make a b-line for the recruitment offices so they can see hot naked butts.

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olds

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No controversy on this one? None of the hoary old arguments about how it will destroy troop morale? What happened to the testosterone crew this morning?

- wolf

As a former soldier, I would have had no problem serving with gays. It was a stupid policy then as it is now.