Should California be free?

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Should California be free?

  • Yes

  • No

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JechtShot

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The hate in this thread against CA is alarming. Reminds me of when I read a comment on the internet from a bunch of people from third world countries hate against America. Can't we all just get along?
 

zerocool84

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The hate in this thread against CA is alarming. Reminds me of when I read a comment on the internet from a bunch of people from third world countries hate against America. Can't we all just get along?

Hating the best because you don't have it is common amongst humans.
 

zinfamous

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What does it mean: Popped collar?

The official accessory of the North American Douchebag. Most prominently on display during mating season

poppedcollar.jpg



interestingly, the internet is a fickle mistress. This^ used to be the associated image of the douchebag. Now, when you do the search, it's almost exclusively Guidos.

I'm not sure if the vast internet community is perpetually confused, or just fickle little bitches that have no care to understand and maintain terms anymore.

:\
 

zinfamous

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For the billionth time:

CALIFORNIA DOES NOT PAY ANYTHING TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.


Really rich people who like the live in beach houses in warm weather areas... pay the federal government.

The fact that these warm weather beaches are in CA does not somehow show that CA is getting dicked out of anything.

But something tells me you are not against the progressive taxation that causes this effect.

Do you live in Kansas? why do you hate awesome?
 

Train

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its not that hard to understand, you can't point your finger when your red states are on federal welfare...paid for in part by states like california.

States are not on welfare. Poor democrats are. States don't pay taxes, rich republicans do.
 
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Matt915

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If I recall, California has the world's 6th largest GDP...as in if they were their own country, there'd only be 5 other countries with larger GDPs
 

pcgeek11

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At least I can fucking read.

No you are not reading facts. You are interpreting them to further your warped idea of California problems and blame it on someone else. When the reality is that as stated many times before: Welfare, Social Handouts, Massive Borrowing and the poor management of Califorias budget are the true causes of the problems.
 

pcgeek11

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its not that hard to understand, you can't point your finger when your red states are on federal welfare...paid for in part by states like california.

15. Oregon
14. Pennsylvania
13. Michigan
12. Rhode Island
Tie-10. Indiana
Tie-10. New Mexico
9. Washington
8. Minnesota
7. New York
6. District of Columbia
5. Vermont
4. Massachusetts
3. Tennessee
2. Maine
1. California
 

dud

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Feb 18, 2001
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I am currently on a business trip in SoCal ... and it is definitely NOT free.

Perhaps HAL9000 (aka Nectard) should chime in. He knows everything and he posts 50 times a day to let us know this fact.
 

bfdd

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15. Oregon
14. Pennsylvania
13. Michigan
12. Rhode Island
Tie-10. Indiana
Tie-10. New Mexico
9. Washington
8. Minnesota
7. New York
6. District of Columbia
5. Vermont
4. Massachusetts
3. Tennessee
2. Maine
1. California
Yes we receive a shit load of welfare dollars. It is still less than we contribute as a people to the rest of the country. What's your fucking point? So because we like welfare(I have some problems with it) we can't pay for it? Oh wait we do and some. You can post this all you like, but it won't change the fact that more money leaves our State to help others than the rest of you guys give back to us. Any state on that list that is receiving more in Federal Aide than the people of the State contribute needs to fix their problems. Those of us who are contributing more than our fair share can do whatever the fuck we feel like.
 

zinfamous

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15. Oregon
14. Pennsylvania
13. Michigan
12. Rhode Island
Tie-10. Indiana
Tie-10. New Mexico
9. Washington
8. Minnesota
7. New York
6. District of Columbia
5. Vermont
4. Massachusetts
3. Tennessee
2. Maine
1. California

Sweet list! I made one, too:

32. Montenegro
31. Italy
30. Croatia
29. Uzbekistan
28. Slovenia
27. Alaska
26. Toronto
25. North Carolina
24. Poland
23. Ireland
22. Estonia
21. Finland
20. Turkmenistan
19. Japan
18. Burma
17. Idaho
16. Kansas
15. Texas
14. Turkey
13. Serbia
12. Greece
11. Moldova
10. Congo
9. Luxembourg
8. Portugal
7. Oregon
6. South Carolina
5. Oklahoma
4. Switzerland
3. Nebraska
2. California
1. Belize
 

Train

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Yes we receive a shit load of welfare dollars. It is still less than we contribute as a people to the rest of the country. What's your fucking point? So because we like welfare(I have some problems with it) we can't pay for it? Oh wait we do and some. You can post this all you like, but it won't change the fact that more money leaves our State to help others than the rest of you guys give back to us. Any state on that list that is receiving more in Federal Aide than the people of the State contribute needs to fix their problems. Those of us who are contributing more than our fair share can do whatever the fuck we feel like.

Stop saying "we" like you're carrying someone on your fucking back.

99% of Federal income tax collected is paid by the richest 1% of the population. Guess what, a high concentration of those uber rich people live in Cali, guys like Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos, Sergey Brin, etc. THOSE guys pay more than their fair share, not you, and certainly not California.
 

bfdd

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Stop saying "we" like you're carrying somene on your fucking back.

99% of Federal income tax collected is paid by the richest 1% of the population. Guess what, a high concentration of those uber rich people live in Cali, guys like Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos, Sergey Brin, etc. THOSE guys pay more than their fair share, not you, and certainly not California.

Derp a der dap derp a da der. Yes, that's why I pay taxes every year. It doesn't matter how much I pay, I contribute. I'm not one of these un-taxed many and there are PLENTY of assholes in California who are taxed just like me. Average household income where I live is 80k+ and unless you think those kinds of people aren't paying taxes(a city of damn near 200K) you're a fucking retard. My state and my neighbors pay combined, more than our fair share to the country. Outside the few other states that are getting screwed, the rest of you need to start picking up after yourselves. This Union doesn't fucking work unless everyone is contributing.

We(the few states that pay more than we receive) would really fucking appreciate it if you idiots living in your shitty states started contributing more to our society. If you guys want as much say in our fucking federal process as you think you deserve, you should fucking earn it.
 

Train

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Derp a der dap derp a da der. Yes, that's why I pay taxes every year. It doesn't matter how much I pay, I contribute. I'm not one of these un-taxed many and there are PLENTY of assholes in California who are taxed just like me. Average household income where I live is 80k+ and unless you think those kinds of people aren't paying taxes(a city of damn near 200K) you're a fucking retard. My state and my neighbors pay combined, more than our fair share to the country. Outside the few other states that are getting screwed, the rest of you need to start picking up after yourselves. This Union doesn't fucking work unless everyone is contributing.

We(the few states that pay more than we receive) would really fucking appreciate it if you idiots living in your shitty states started contributing more to our society. If you guys want as much say in our fucking federal process as you think you deserve, you should fucking earn it.

I like how you completly dodged the point of my post.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Derp a der dap derp a da der. Yes, that's why I pay taxes every year. It doesn't matter how much I pay, I contribute. I'm not one of these un-taxed many and there are PLENTY of assholes in California who are taxed just like me. Average household income where I live is 80k+ and unless you think those kinds of people aren't paying taxes(a city of damn near 200K) you're a fucking retard. My state and my neighbors pay combined, more than our fair share to the country. Outside the few other states that are getting screwed, the rest of you need to start picking up after yourselves. This Union doesn't fucking work unless everyone is contributing.

We(the few states that pay more than we receive) would really fucking appreciate it if you idiots living in your shitty states started contributing more to our society. If you guys want as much say in our fucking federal process as you think you deserve, you should fucking earn it.

Dude you need some medication. I'm sorry you can't understand that California has issues with itself. It is not caused by the " Other States ". It is caused by Californians government and the welfare, overspending, borrowing too much ...
 

Train

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Jun 22, 2000
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Are those people not Californians whose place of business resides in California? Your point doesn't matter shit.

The point makes perfect sense, you just dont want to admit it.

If one guy is a multi billionaire, and another makes 50k, andeach pay 10% tax...

The guy who paid hundreds of millions in taxes is gonna be hard pressed to have the federal government spend as much on him (in terms of paid taxes/recieved bennies ratio) as the guy who paid $5k.

The fed could blow the $5k on a tiny stretch of hghway that he drives on on his way to work. For the multibillionaire to get his "fair share", the fed would pretty much have to pave his street in gold.
 

bfdd

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Dude you need some medication. I'm sorry you can't understand that California has issues with itself. It is not caused by the " Other States ". It is caused by Californians government and the welfare, overspending, borrowing too much ...

I'm not blaming California's issues on other states. I'm saying other states are an issue to the union, which has negative implications on California. There are plenty of things I would change here, including the welfare program. That doesn't mean the other states that leech off the few of us don't have to get their shit together. Our union wasn't founded on the premise of a few carrying the many.

Investing our tax dollars into states which cannot keep themselves a float is a losing investment. To continue to do so without cracking down on the other states to be more productive or use less tax dollars is not going to help us in the long run.
 

Train

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I'm not blaming California's issues on other states. I'm saying other states are an issue to the union, which has negative implications on California. There are plenty of things I would change here, including the welfare program. That doesn't mean the other states that leech off the few of us don't have to get their shit together. Our union wasn't founded on the premise of a few carrying the many.

Investing our tax dollars into states which cannot keep themselves a float is a losing investment. To continue to do so without cracking down on the other states to be more productive or use less tax dollars is not going to help us in the long run.

If you wat to harp on welfare, I'm all for it, but you have to realize that welfare is a people issue, not a state issue.

Whats next? If someone showed you a federal tax dollar collected vs dollar spent comparing races... Would you go on a tear about how [insert race here] does not pay their "fair share" ?
 

bfdd

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If you wat to harp on welfare, I'm all for it, but you have to realize that welfare is a people issue, not a state issue.

Whats next? If someone showed you a federal tax dollar collected vs dollar spent comparing races... Would you go on a tear about how [insert race here] does not pay their "fair share" ?

Yes I realize welfare is a people issue. I honestly have no clue why, in California, our welfare system isn't tied to Caltrans. 10 hours a week. That's all I'm asking those who are on welfare programs to commit to doing some sort of community service. Not those who are incapable of working or children, but those fully capable of working should have to do some sort of community service in order to receive back from the community.