Should Bush send his own children to iraq?

[firefaux]

he's always saying stay the course, september 11, etc etc. why not back up his resolution by sending his own children to fight/die there? And I mean out to the front lines-flushing out insurgents, not safe office work.

 

[yllus]

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[1EZduzit]

LOL, send them there for the "duration".

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: yllus
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I tend to agree this is a troll thread, but I fail to see how it impairs anyone's free speech.

 

[zendari]

They're adults. He can't just "send" them.

 

[ahurtt]

No he shouldn't because then everybody would have to STFU!

 

[firefaux]

i dont think this is a troll thread. that would imply that im trying to piss people off for the hell of it. im actually serious about this topic and want to know peoples opinions. comments like the ones above this are trolling, however.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: yllus
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I tend to agree this is a troll thread, but I fail to see how it impairs anyone's free speech.

I do admit it'd probably take a leap to get to what I meant.

Essentially, we're allowed to voice our opinions without a requirement to jump up and act on them a second later. Take that away and we have something less than freedom of speech. Even sillier is the idea that if your father says something, his adult daughters should have to follow through. Last but not least is the odd idea that people in the military are "sent" there and made no choice that could have led them down that path.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: firefaux
Should Bush send his own children to iraq?

It should be up to them, not their father, but it would probably do more good to send them to AA or NA.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: yllus

I do admit it'd probably take a leap to get to what I meant.

Essentially, we're allowed to voice our opinions without a requirement to jump up and act on them a second later. Take that away and we have something less than freedom of speech. Even sillier is the idea that if your father says something, his adult daughters should have to follow through. Last but not least is the odd idea that people in the military are "sent" there and made no choice that could have led them down that path.

In all fairness, it's not as though President Bush is merely speaking out in favor of the war - he started it! I don't think, though, that that imposes any moral obligation for him to send his hard-partying daughters.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: yllus
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I tend to agree this is a troll thread, but I fail to see how it impairs anyone's free speech.

I do admit it'd probably take a leap to get to what I meant.

Essentially, we're allowed to voice our opinions without a requirement to jump up and act on them a second later. Take that away and we have something less than freedom of speech. Even sillier is the idea that if your father says something, his adult daughters should have to follow through. Last but not least is the odd idea that people in the military are "sent" there and made no choice that could have led them down that path.

I agree with all but the last. Everyone is sent in the military. You may join during time of conflict hoping to fight, but that isn't always the case. Likewise, people who have been called up after being out hardly foresaw being sent to Iraq. They just didn't jump up and say "Holy crap, I forgot to go to work in Iraq today!"

As far as Bush's daughters.. Well you can't pick your parents. They aren't the least bit obliged to answer for their father's actions. Now I would like to see Bush sent in not as pres but as PFC Bush and put on the line having to do what he was told. That would be rewarding to watch.

 

[jammur21]

Even if they agreed to go or he "sent" them, do you really think they would be driving a truck in a convoy or go out on patrol?

Being high value targets, they would seldom leave base.

 

[nick1985]

this is an obvious troll thread

 

[mOeeOm]

What happend to the days when the leaders led their army to battle...

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: nick1985
this is an obvious troll thread

That may be, but it raises the larger question of leaders being able to send others to do their dirtywork while they have no personal stake whatever. In days of old, leaders really fought. Now they have nothing to lose.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: DonVito
In all fairness, it's not as though President Bush is merely speaking out in favor of the war - he started it! I don't think, though, that that imposes any moral obligation for him to send his hard-partying daughters.

I tend to think he merely finished it (though 'finished' may not be the most fitting word). Even so, President or not, I wouldn't expect any such action from him.

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I agree with all but the last. Everyone is sent in the military. You may join during time of conflict hoping to fight, but that isn't always the case. Likewise, people who have been called up after being out hardly foresaw being sent to Iraq. They just didn't jump up and say "Holy crap, I forgot to go to work in Iraq today!"

I think you may have misunderstood what I said. What I mean is, they joined a volunteer military. I would imagine that it occurred to most of the people signing that contract that fighting, killing and dying might be part of the job description... though I also imagine that recruiters probably try to minimize any thoughts about those outcomes and that lots of people join to escape a bad situation at home, pay for their education or see the sights.

As far as Bush's daughters.. Well you can't pick your parents. They aren't the least bit obliged to answer for their father's actions. Now I would like to see Bush sent in not as pres but as PFC Bush and put on the line having to do what he was told. That would be rewarding to watch.

You think? I tend to believe that running, winning and serving as the President of the United States are tasks not easily accomplished by a coward. The dude has guts, no matter what else you may wish to belittle about him.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: zendari
They're adults. He can't just "send" them.

But he should encourage, seeing as he believes in this occupation.

 

[Stunt]

"Topic Title: Should Bush send his own children to iraq?"

Simply: No.

 

[Taggart]

Originally posted by: zendari
They're adults. He can't just "send" them.

 

[firefaux]

Originally posted by: nick1985
this is an obvious troll thread

how is this a troll thread? because it can evoke opposing views? now i probably should have reworded it, but i think that this is a valid question.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: firefaux

Originally posted by: nick1985
this is an obvious troll thread

how is this a troll thread? because it can evoke opposing views? now i probably should have reworded it, but i think that this is a valid question.

The question itself is baised.

The US military is voluntary, you should not be forcing anybody to go to war, no matter who your relatives are.

 

[BoberFett]

If Bush did send his daughters to Iraq, thereby putting his proverbial money where his mouth is, would he then be justified in pushing to reinstate the draft? After all, if he's willing to sacrifice his children then shouldn't the rest of that nation?

 

[EyeMNathan]

This is a moronic thread. No one should ever force someone to enlist into the military unless of course the country is being invaded, then by all means, draft the entire country and hand out guns. And the large number of "yes" votes just goes to show you how many irrational fools are on this forum.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: firefaux

Originally posted by: nick1985
this is an obvious troll thread

how is this a troll thread? because it can evoke opposing views? now i probably should have reworded it, but i think that this is a valid question.

How is this question valid? we have a volunteer military, they cant serve unless they so choose to.

 

[firefaux]

ok, maybe if i said: should bush allow his own daughters to go fight in iraq (if they were to join?). does that sound better?