Should Army Pfc. Bradley Manning Be Executed If Found Guilty Of Treason?

[StageLeft]

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/03/awlaki/index.html

What is this? I read first couple paras.

 

[MotF Bane]

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/03/awlaki/index.html

D:

 

[MotF Bane]

What is this? I read first couple paras.

It's worth reading the whole of it.

 

[SammyJr]

Should Army Pfc. Bradley Manning be executed if found guilty of treason?

Simple question.
Is execution the appropriate punishment for treason in a time a war.

No. He should be given a medal for doing what our pathetic corporate-owned media has failed to do - shed a spot light on the disgusting joke that is our war in Afghanistan. Its no surprise that so many people are pissed off about what he did. God forbid people base their support of the war based on facts. They might not want the bloodshed and spending to continue.

We need a million more Bradley Mannings.

 

[werepossum]

He should get whatever penalty the law prescribes.

- wolf

This. I'd like for him to be executed if found guilty, as already an Afghan tribal elder has been executed by the Taliban using information provided by wikileaks. But he SHOULD get whatever penalty the law prescribes. The rule of law is more important than satisfying our need for vengeance on a traitor.

 

[SammyJr]

This. I'd like for him to be executed if found guilty, as already an Afghan tribal elder has been executed by the Taliban using information provided by wikileaks. But he SHOULD get whatever penalty the law prescribes. The rule of law is more important than satisfying our need for vengeance on a traitor.

The real traitors are those who started this war in the first place and then persued it so poorly, but yeah, lets beat down the guy who had the guts to show the American people what a farce the war is.

 

[MotF Bane]

No. He should be given a medal for doing what our pathetic corporate-owned media has failed to do - shed a spot light on the disgusting joke that is our war in Afghanistan. Its no surprise that so many people are pissed off about what he did. God forbid people base their support of the war based on facts. They might not want the bloodshed and spending to continue.

We need a million more Bradley Mannings.

Yeah, just forget the rule of law as long as it suits you.

 

[soulcougher73]

OP, what time of war are you referring to?

This. I thought we were not at "war".

 

[Fear No Evil]

Liz Cheney is his daughter!!!

Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor? Don't interrupt Perk when he's having a frothing at the mouth anti-Bush moment.

 

[Jhhnn]

Righties are extremely accepting of anything that their team does, and will accept any sort of justifications for it, including the most blatant distortions, as with the Plame incident.

It's true that Armitage accidentally leaked Plame's status to Novak.

It's also true that Novak is too good a journalist to publish a story based on a single source like that. He needed confirmation, and the Bush Whitehouse knowingly provided it. Very simple.

They'd been actively shopping for somebody to do just that, to discredit Wilson, her husband. The CIA claims that her status was legitimately covert, and called for an investigation. Scooter Libby stymied that investigation, and was convicted of obstruction of justice and perjury, with his sentence commuted by Bush.

The guy who leaked the documents to Wikileaks apparently did so for more noble reasons than political revenge, but I doubt his sentence will be as light or that he'll have his sentence commuted, either...

Neither act is considered treason under the Law, and both endangered confidential foreign intelligence assets...

 

[StageLeft]

This. I'd like for him to be executed if found guilty, as already an Afghan tribal elder has been executed by the Taliban using information provided by wikileaks. But he SHOULD get whatever penalty the law prescribes. The rule of law is more important than satisfying our need for vengeance on a traitor.

Some laws are crap and should be broken and/or repealed.

 

[werepossum]

Some laws are crap and should be broken and/or repealed.

I agree completely, but while they are in force they should be followed. Otherwise we end up with the rule of men rather than the rule of law.

 

[ichy]

Waterboard him.

 

[halik]

OP, what time of war are you referring to?

Seconded. Otherwise I'm starting my own radio station... wooo!

 

[Martin]

I agree completely, but while they are in force they should be followed. Otherwise we end up with the rule of men rather than the rule of law.

A conservative's delusion. What major social change has ever occurred with people quietly following the law? Because I can think of plenty of others: Civil rights, prohobition, labour/union movements, suffrage, independence movements in many countries etc etc.

 

[bfdd]

treason should only carry one penalty death, if our government failed to do that for traitors in the past, fuck the faggots in the government who allowed those pieces of shit to live.

 

[Pens1566]

Are you referring to Plame?
The same Plame that wasn't a covert agent according to the Intelligence Identities Protection Act? The same Plame that drove a Sabb to Langley for 10 years and then people like you claim her employment with the CIA was a highly guarded secret?

That agent?

Her employer at the time (CIA) disagrees with your conclusion.

Nice revisionist history attempt though. It must be tough trying to keep up with spidey as the most delusional poster around.

 

[StageLeft]

treason should only carry one penalty death, if our government failed to do that for traitors in the past, fuck the faggots in the government who allowed those pieces of shit to live.

You are a fine citizen, comrade.

 

[MotF Bane]

You are a fine citizen, comrade.

Da, tovarisch!

 

[bfdd]

You are a fine citizen, comrade.

??? I'm not saying he committed treason, I just happen to think treason is a rather big offense and should have the single penalty of death. I don't even see it so much as a crime against our government as much as it's a crime against us other citizens. so waah comrade

 

[ayabe]

Sure as soon as war profiteering is considered treason. Whoops there goes half the big GOP donors.

 

[Carmen813]

I'd prefer jail time, assuming he is guilty.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Should Army Pfc. Bradley Manning be executed if found guilty of treason?

Simple question.
Is execution the appropriate punishment for treason in a time a war.

Yes

He has earned execution as countless NATO and Afghan lives will be lost due to the information he intentionally gave to the hostiles.

(I am sure someone is about to quote me and cry Bush and/or Obama is the biggest murderer of all for starting / continuing the Afghan War, which they may have a point)

http://www.dailytech.com/Taliban+Mu...ikileaks+for+Revealing+Spies/article19250.htm

The Taliban, a radical Islamic militia in Afghanistan, announced its gratitude to Wikileaks for the release and vowed to hunt down those revealed in the documents to be collaborating with the U.S. It appears that they have now made good on that threat.

Khalifa Abdullah, a tribal elder, was removed from his home in Monar village, in Kandahar province’s embattled Arghandab district, by gunmen. He was then executed.

Over 70 other tribal elders receive death threats

This is only the beginning as the documents are further digested.

For the record, I am mostly against the death penalty being used in civilian cases.

 

[khon]

Seems to me you'd have a better case against Geraldo/Foxnews. They gave away operational details during the initial invasion of Iraq, literally drawing a map of where the troops where planning to go.

 

[tk149]

So you have no problem making Laura Bush and Liz Cheney widows.

Will Hillary be joining them?