Should airlines have a documented, published dress code for fliers?

Bateluer

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http://nation.foxnews.com/plane-pas.../25/possible-dress-code-coming-plane-near-you

From skirts too short, to pants too low, some passengers are learning the hard way that their wardrobe can keep them grounded.

Several high profile incidents have flyers rights groups calling on airlines to publish dress codes just as clearly as ticket fares and baggage restrictions.

"People aren't mind readers,” says Kate Hanni, executive director of FlyersRights.org. “They don't know what that flight attendant's going to want to see when you get on a plane!"

She argues the lack of consistency leaves passengers exposed to the judgments of the flight crew, who may take offense at clothing that wouldn't be considered indecent off the plane, but which leads to an argument and sometimes ends with the passenger getting kicked off. Such an incident happened in San Francisco this past June, when a college football player’s low hung pants- and his refusal to pull them up- caused his controversial removal from the plane.

Most airlines agree that the people running the flight need to know passengers will do what they’re told.

"In the end, the flight crew is in charge of the aircraft, and they have to make judgments based on what they think is going to create the safest and most comfortable environment for everyone on the airplane,” says Virgin America CEO David Cush.

In the airlines view, passengers removed from flights because of their wardrobe became a risk.

But Hanni contends if that's the case, it's the airlines fault.

"The airlines should step up and do this on their own, just so that passengers can predict and appropriately dress. If there's a requirement to wear a certain type of clothing, or not wear a certain type of clothing, tell us!"

Indeed, most of the major carriers scoff at spelling out specifics, and only give general guidelines in their contracts of carriage. American Airlines, for instance, won't give a maximum weight limit, but reserves the right to turn away anyone deemed too fat to comply with safety instructions by themselves. The airlines say it also within its right to kick off someone with an offensive odor not caused by an illness or disability. On the question of clothing, passengers can be booted if they're dressed in a manner "that would cause discomfort or offense to other passengers."

Not sure why the football player referenced just didn't pull his pants up for a couple hours on the flight, but I'm of the mind that a dress code should be set in policy and clearly displayed.
 

BoomerD

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I'm not sure a "dress code" would be appropriate, but some common sense on the part of airline passengers certainly would...
 

OutHouse

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a total ban on perfume/cologne would be a god send.

i swear some women think the more perfume they use the prettier they smell. no you bitch im sitting behind you and your channel #5 you bathed in is so strong in can taste it, its giving me a headache and flaring my asthma.
 

dougp

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Regardless of whether it's published, people will still ignore it and dress as they please. Since it's not enforced by the TSA, these people will get to the gates and then find out they can't fly - I could see lots of issues coming from that.
 

Gooberlx2

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Since it's not enforced by the TSA, these people will get to the gates and then find out they can't fly - I could see lots of issues coming from that.

Not that I've ever seen it happen, but apparently it's an issue already for some people since they have no idea that the airlines have certain expectations for attire.

Obviously wearing underwear with a short skirt is common sense, but I had no idea that the low-slung pants thing was an issue for some airlines (despite the real reason the guy got kicked off was for becoming unruly and aggressive).
 

sactoking

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So long as airlines are going to deny paid customers a seat for violating a dress code, said code needs to be published for passengers to view to ensure compliance. Otherwise it becomes arbitrary and discriminatory, as we have already seen.
 

olds

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a total ban on perfume/cologne would be a god send.

i swear some women think the more perfume they use the prettier they smell. no you bitch im sitting behind you and your channel #5 you bathed in is so strong in can taste it, its giving me a headache and flaring my asthma.
But then there would be lawsuits for discrimination against women and gays.
 

Onita

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They probably should have one, but shouldn't need to. It SHOULD be common sense what would be decent in public.
 

mmntech

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a total ban on perfume/cologne would be a god send.

i swear some women think the more perfume they use the prettier they smell. no you bitch im sitting behind you and your channel #5 you bathed in is so strong in can taste it, its giving me a headache and flaring my asthma.

But deodorant should be mandatory.

Back in the 60s, everyone dressed up to go anywhere. You'd always see men flying in full suits complete with fedora hat. Woman wore nice dresses or later on pant suits. I suppose that started to change in the 70s when your classic "tourist" began to appear. Now everyone dresses like a bum. We've sunk to the point where it's acceptable to wear pyjamas when out in public. :rolleyes:

I debated dressing nicely the last time I flew. I settled for a casual dress. Argyle sweater with nice slacks. I flew business class so most people were in classy casual or business wear. Porter Airlines in Toronto only has the one class, but it's still cheaper than Air Canada's coach.
 

yinan

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Why would I want to dress up to travel in the most inconvenient way possible? A suit is so damn uncomfortable I do not understand how people can wear them.
 

rudder

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They probably should have one, but shouldn't need to. It SHOULD be common sense what would be decent in public.

My thoughts exactly. I guess some people will feel as if they are sheeple should they dress in a manner showing they understand public decency. To me it is just a matter of respect for the fellow traveler. I am not saying we need to go back to the suit and tie dresscode.. but leave the ...

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shirts in the suitcase.
 

Exterous

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My thoughts exactly. I guess some people will feel as if they are sheeple should they dress in a manner showing they understand public decency.

Or that they are giving up some sort of right or are being encroached apon. They're big boned and take up excessive space and overflow into your seat. Deal withit otherwise they will raise holy hell. Don't tell my child to stop hitting you in the back of the head you monster! What do you mean you dont want to see my underware because my pants are too low?

Face it, public decency is on the way out.
 

Anubis

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Face it, public decency is on the way out.

on its way?

it left the building years ago

TBH i don't fing care what anyone else wears on a plane, i could be sitting next to a naked fat man and i wouldn't give it a second thought, id simply put in my headphones, close my eyes and ignore him. which is what i do to anyone who is on a plane
 

ThePresence

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But deodorant should be mandatory.

Back in the 60s, everyone dressed up to go anywhere. You'd always see men flying in full suits complete with fedora hat. Woman wore nice dresses or later on pant suits. I suppose that started to change in the 70s when your classic "tourist" began to appear. Now everyone dresses like a bum. We've sunk to the point where it's acceptable to wear pyjamas when out in public. :rolleyes:

I debated dressing nicely the last time I flew. I settled for a casual dress. Argyle sweater with nice slacks. I flew business class so most people were in classy casual or business wear. Porter Airlines in Toronto only has the one class, but it's still cheaper than Air Canada's coach.

Porter is awesome, I fly them all the time. I love the location of the airport, the 3 minutes to get through customs, the airplane has all leather seats, pretty comfortable, the people have always been super helpful and nice, etc. I'd fly them any day over Air Canada to Pearson.
 

nutxo

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All clothing and personal effects should be removed from passengers boxed, labeled and treated as luggage. After a thorough search each passenger should be issued a paper jumpsuit to be worn during the flight. Upon arrival the passengers would have their personal clothing returned to them.
 

AMCRambler

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I was walking behind this dummy in the mall with his pants pulled down past his ass cheeks. I'm basically looking at what appears to be his boxers. What is with that? I also couldn't understand how they were staying up. It looked like they would fall down completely at any second. I just don't get this. A spray bottle with hershey's syrup spritzed on his underwear would cure it I bet. He'd be embarrassed about a perceived shit stain and pull up his pants. Then again maybe not.
 

KeithTalent

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Should go back to the day when women acted like ladies and men acted like gentlemen. Dresses for ladies and suits for men mandatory on airplanes.

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