shot in the back by a cop and now paralyzed

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SheHateMe

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Id be curious to find out why he ran


Jesus, are you retarded or something? Is this the bottom line for you idiots when a cop abuses his badge? Why he ran is irrelevant (although it is obvious why he ran). He was off of his bike less than 5 seconds before he was shot down like a dog. No verbal commands were given, I doubt the kid even got close to the cop seeing as you can still see his elbow in the frame after he gets off of his bike.

They didn't even say a word to him. Yet, they lied and claimed that several commands were given.
 
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Attic

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Feeling really shamed to be part of a country that is doing this to it's people.
 
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Jesus, are you retarded or something? Is this the bottom line for you idiots when a cop abuses his badge? Why he ran is irrelevant (although it is obvious why he ran). He was off of his bike less than 5 seconds before he was shot down like a dog. No verbal commands were given, I doubt the kid even got close to the cop seeing as you can still see his elbow in the frame after he gets off of his bike.

They didn't even say a word to him. Yet, they lied and claimed that several commands were given.

So fill all of us in on why it was obvious why he ran? You just said no commands were given, yet he ran anyways. I'm not justifying the cop at all. I was just curious why he ran.

Unless you are implying this cop just rolled up on someone with his camera on to film a wannabe execution for the whole world to see. Cause you know. That makes a lot of sense.
 
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DrDoug

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So fill all of us in on why it was obvious why he ran? You just said no commands were given, yet he ran anyways. I'm not justifying the cop at all. I was just curious why he ran.

Unless you are implying this cop just rolled up on someone with his camera on to film a wannabe execution for the whole world to see. Cause you know. That makes a lot of sense.

I think some important questions to ask are one, why did he run when a second before he was walking, seemingly cooperatively, towards the officer? Is the silence of the officer, contrary to his filed report, a clue to what happened? Why did the officer lie in his report? If the guy was a threat to the officer he was close enough to have wrestled him for his gun, yet he did not. He was not armed, not wanted and not carrying drugs.

Again, why would he run?

There are more questions being asked about the actions of the officer than have been answered yet the officer has been cleared of any wrongdoing, as usual, and a man is paralyzed for life.

Justice? No.
 

Jaskalas

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So fill all of us in on why it was obvious why he ran?

The officer clearly had to pull his gun out before he fired. His body language likely gave away his intent. The victim would likely be dead if he just stood there while being drilled.

Seeing someone about to kill you is likely to force a panic response.
 

Darwin333

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Although I'd love to think so, I'm not so sure that changes are really coming. Each time a cop gets away with something like this, it creates a legal precedence for the next cop that does this to be exonerated.

It seems like the powers that be LIKE it this way. The judges, the prosecutors, the unions, city/county/state leadership all seem to do their best to cover for this kind of behavior. If those guys aren't going to enact the change, then who will? Who is going to change things?

Those people all have something to lose from enacting change. If we know anything it is that we have the capability to do anything to prevent the change of our status quo, assuming we enjoy said status quo and all those people do.
 

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You know, in all these vids, I'm starting to think armed black guys are less likely to get shot than unarmed.
 
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I think some important questions to ask are one, why did he run when a second before he was walking, seemingly cooperatively, towards the officer? Is the silence of the officer, contrary to his filed report, a clue to what happened? Why did the officer lie in his report? If the guy was a threat to the officer he was close enough to have wrestled him for his gun, yet he did not. He was not armed, not wanted and not carrying drugs.

Again, why would he run?

There are more questions being asked about the actions of the officer than have been answered yet the officer has been cleared of any wrongdoing, as usual, and a man is paralyzed for life.

Justice? No.

That could be true as well. Just seems suspicious a cop who knows his camera was on would do something like that unprovoked though. He'll even if the camera was off it would seem odd. It is a shame he lied which means he must know he was mostly guilty. I'll just wait for more info before judging the situation with 100% certainty.
 

Blanky

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Although I'd love to think so, I'm not so sure that changes are really coming. Each time a cop gets away with something like this, it creates a legal precedence for the next cop that does this to be exonerated.

It seems like the powers that be LIKE it this way. The judges, the prosecutors, the unions, city/county/state leadership all seem to do their best to cover for this kind of behavior. If those guys aren't going to enact the change, then who will? Who is going to change things?
Changes are coming. I know this because before video basically 100% of the time a cop shoots you it was because you were threatening him, reaching for his weapon, etc. And it was your word as a guy with a criminal record against this decorated officer, so tough shit you lose. Now video is coming up constantly of cops acting like complete fucking imbeciles, and many of these are resulting in riots. From Michael Brown--a legitimate shooting, but still resulted in riots--to the dude who died recently after being in a coma, also resulting in riots, and plenty in between, there is a lot of anger now and it builds each time another video comes out.
You know, in all these vids, I'm starting to think armed black guys are less likely to get shot than unarmed.
Probably not. As far as cops are concerned all the black guys are armed anyway so they treat them the same.
Just seems suspicious a cop who knows his camera was on would do something like that unprovoked though.
Doesn't bother them at all and/or they just forget about it. Look at this murder here, for example. The cops obviously knew it was being filmed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DngOL6LokN4 I put this killing right up there with Walter Scott in a competition of most egregious executions by cops.
 

SheHateMe

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So fill all of us in on why it was obvious why he ran? You just said no commands were given, yet he ran anyways. I'm not justifying the cop at all. I was just curious why he ran.

Is this a serious question? Was he supposed to stand still after the cop pulled a gun out on him without speaking a word?

Why do people like you have to act so fucking stupid when there is a video right there for you to see?

What does him running have to do with the fact that the officer shot him 4 times in the back without warning and lied in the Police report about what happened?
 
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Is this a serious question? Was he supposed to stand still after the cop pulled a gun out on him without speaking a word?

Why do people like you have to act so fucking stupid when there is a video right there for you to see?

What does him running have to do with the fact that the officer shot him 4 times in the back without warning and lied in the Police report about what happened?

Yes he should have stood still, put his hands in the air and not say anything. He would probably not have been shot had he done that. AND i'm not justifying the cops actions in any way. He should not have shot at him when running way and is in the wrong. But, there is obviously more to this story that we don't know and i'm willing to admit that, unlike you. Maybe this guy is known to be armed and dangerous and shot at cops before. I have no idea. Maybe the cop thought the cell phone was a gun which is why he shot. Lots of unknowns. And just cause i acknowledge that doesn't mean i support what the cop did.
 

core2slow

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If I didn't know any better, I'd say all the recent civil unrest create quite a diversion for TPTB to hatch out their plans.
 

werepossum

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Id be curious to find out why he ran or what he was pulled up on for.
He's conditioned to believe that if a cop pulls a gun, he will be shot. The cop is conditioned to believe that if a black man runs, he's a dangerous criminal.

You know, in all these vids, I'm starting to think armed black guys are less likely to get shot than unarmed.
At least the shots would be more hurried and you'd stand a better chance of not being hit.
 

Jaskalas

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Yes he should have stood still, put his hands in the air and not say anything. He would probably not have been shot had he done that.

In theory, that'd ideally happen. But when the only thing standing between you and almost certain death is an itchy trigger finger...

Add onto that all the modern social media showing police shootings... and think "am I next?". People are going to panic.
 
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In theory, that'd ideally happen. But when the only thing standing between you and almost certain death is an itchy trigger finger...

Add onto that all the modern social media showing police shootings... and think "am I next?". People are going to panic.

I get that as well. But most videos ive seen are of them running and being shot in the back. Which is obviously wrong, but maybe they should learn to NOT do that when fronted by a cop. Obviously the run tactic isnt working out.

Of course were all just armchair cops here on the forum and have no idea what its really like to be in those situations day in and day out with criminals or people trying to kill you at times. So i cant really put myself in their shoes and say what id actually do. Everything with them is split decision life or death situations and they have to act quickly and sometimes they will be wrong. Or dead.
 

SheHateMe

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Is this a serious question? :confused:

Yes, it is. Are you guys this fucking stupid? The cop didn't give any verbal commands, he literally pulled up on the kid and hopped out of the car already intending to use his weapon.

There is no excuse for him to start shooting at this person. Its like you people are excusing this behavior because someone ran away. So the fuck what? Is that a free pass to shoot people now...because they turned around and ran away?
 

ch33zw1z

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SHM, this isn't the wild west, you're allowed to shoot people in the back and keep your dignity.
 

96Firebird

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If someone, ANYONE, pulls a gun out and points it at me, I'm going to stand still and not make any sudden movements.

But I like how you somehow think I am excusing what the cop did. Either you have zero reading comprehension, or are plain stupid.
 
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