Thats why she wouldn't be charged as an adult. Someone who can hoist a 50lb metal object in the air has a little more mental capacity then a 5 y/o (hopefully).
Thats why she wouldn't be charged as an adult. Someone who can hoist a 50lb metal object in the air has a little more mental capacity then a 5 y/o (hopefully).
Whoozyerdaddy
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What they did nearly killed somebody. Their intentions and the level to which they thought through the consequences of their "prank" are irrelevant.
GagHalfrunt
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A drunk driver doesn't intend to injure someone either. But when you do something incredibly stupid and somebody else is hurt as a result you need to face the consequences.
I stand corrected. The victim broke her neck and suffered serious head injuries but was NOT paralyzed.
But what i do not get with your argument is that someone intentionally hoisted a 30+ pound object and NOT INTEND to hurt someone? Are you serious? Do you know how much injury could result if someone dropped a 3 pound bottle on your head or an 8lb bowling ball. Try dropping one of those at just 5 feet in the air and see how much pain you'll be in and how much you'll be spending in the emergency room.
It might have been funny if he used water balloons, small bag of starch or tarred feathers instead. For Pete's sake he used a SHOPPING CART!
Morons like that should not be allowed to walk the streets if they could not at least figure out that a 30+ pound object dropping on someone's head will not seriously hurt someone.
I'm not necessarily sure that this was the intentions of those who did it either. I remember being in Jr High and my neighbor had a small chain (about 4ft long) along with a lock. I wrapped the chain to the bottom of the car and locked it on there so they couldn't get it loose. My intentions then were merely just to harrass them by making them hear a clanking sound. It becomes much less funny if somehow the thing caused a car wreck or tore up the vehicle in any way. I wouldn't do it today because I do think of those types of things.
Most likely, yeah, they probably knew this was going to fall. But I don't think even I would imagine a cart causing such serious damage. I think it was probably meant more as a harassment. I personally would think that the individual would realize after messing with the rope that there was something abnormally heavy on the other end. I doubt their thinking was "hahaha, we're going to be break someone's neck."
Most likely, yeah, they probably knew this was going to fall. But I don't think even I would imagine a cart causing such serious damage. I think it was probably meant more as a harassment. I personally would think that the individual would realize after messing with the rope that there was something abnormally heavy on the other end. I doubt their thinking was "hahaha, we're going to be break someone's neck."
The difference here is that we are all assuming this was a child. When we talk of drinking and driving we are more than likely talking about someone who is of age to know better.
Not to mention there is no law against hanging a cart under the influence.
Not to mention there is no law against hanging a cart under the influence.
waggy
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Originally posted by: TravisT
The difference here is that we are all assuming this was a child. When we talk of drinking and driving we are more than likely talking about someone who is of age to know better.
Not to mention there is no law against hanging a cart under the influence.
this was not a child that did this. it had to be a teenager.
MrPickins
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Originally posted by: TravisT
The difference here is that we are all assuming this was a child. When we talk of drinking and driving we are more than likely talking about someone who is of age to know better.
Not to mention there is no law against hanging a cart under the influence.
I'd wager that they were at least HS students. Shopping carts are fairly heavy.
They should be tried as minors if they are, and they'll get the leniency built into the juvinile justice system.
If they are adults, try them to the full extent.
alkemyst
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Originally posted by: TravisT
The difference here is that we are all assuming this was a child. When we talk of drinking and driving we are more than likely talking about someone who is of age to know better.
Not to mention there is no law against hanging a cart under the influence.
yes there is. Not exactly on the cart, but public drunkeness is a crime.
Out of curiousity, what extent of time do you feel is justifiable? Keep in mind drug addicts are only behind bars for days in many of their first offenses. Do we give these "teenagers" the same justice? I consider a drug addict much more threatening than a teenager who pulled a prank.
mugs
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You're assuming that they expected it to fall (on someone). I'm assuming they put it up there because they thought it was funny, and they assumed someone would notice it before they lowered the flag. Either of us could be right. If they intended for someone to get hurt, that's a diffent story, and they should be punished accordingly. If they didn't intend for someone to get hurt, then I think they should be punished less severely.
The punishment should be such that it deters other idiot kids from doing something similar.
It's called taking responsibility for your actions. What they did caused someone else great bodily harm, no matter what they "intended" to happen. You play the game you pay the price. I am sick of people pushing blame on the victims and not making the people responsible pay for their actions.
It's called taking responsibility for your actions. What they did caused someone else great bodily harm, no matter what they "intended" to happen. You play the game you pay the price. I am sick of people pushing blame on the victims and not making the people responsible pay for their actions.
So
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That really sucks, and I hope that the injured woman makes a full recovery -- AND that those kids get a damn good punishment for what they did.
But you must admit, from a purely hypothetical perspective, the image of a shopping cart randomly falling from the sky on someone is pretty funny.
But you must admit, from a purely hypothetical perspective, the image of a shopping cart randomly falling from the sky on someone is pretty funny.
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